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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 1940058, member: 19463&quot;]Observation:&nbsp; High end dealers that regularly sell owls of Athens in EF seem to have trouble finding high grade sea turtles.&nbsp; Many are graded VF but have enough wear that VG seems closer.&nbsp; There are a few with intact or bold dots on the shell (not all had them in the beginning) but most look like they really circulated.&nbsp; AJ&#039;s land tortoise is better than the vast majority of these but it even has a little wear.&nbsp; We see more higher grade land types than sea but neither seems available in what one might call mint state.&nbsp; Condition centered collectors should plan on a long and expensive search.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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