Advice on 1904 Liberty $20 Gold

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Kavekreeker, May 16, 2012.

  1. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member


    I inherited this piece and would like to have it appraised.

    I suspect the 14K money clip enclosure might be detraction. ;)

    The enclosure appears to slightly envelop the rim. I would hope a talented jeweler could remove it without damaging the coin.

    Any advice?

    New to coin collecting. Got a lot more to go through and this site is godsend......

    My quick pass - lots of Mercury dimes worn/circulated, many pennies (two are 1943 copper and one zinc), proofs, JFKs, etc. More later...and thanks in advance!

    PS: Apologies but learning lighting is a challenge photographing coins

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  3. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Forget the $20, lets see those 1943 copper cents.
  4. Anthorn

    Anthorn New Member

    1904 Double Eagle: The Red Book prices are $1,825 at VF-20 and $2,250 at MS-63. At PF-63 which the coin isn't it's $27,500
  5. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member

    1943 Copper Pics coming tonight

    Will post penny pics after work.
  6. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member

    Thanks - I presume it should very carefully lose the 14-carat money clip.
  7. Anthorn

    Anthorn New Member

    Personally, I would have it appraised as a piece of jewelery first or whatever category a money clip falls into. If the coin is removed have it graded.
  8. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member

    1943 D and 1943 Copper Pennies

    As requested Taxidermist,

    The pics will heads and tails in sequence as follows:

    1943 D Copper:
    1943 D head.JPG 1943 D tail.JPG

    1943 Copper:
    1943 head.JPG 1943 tail.JPG

    I have two 1943 Steel pennies I'll post next.

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  9. cciesielski01

    cciesielski01 Laced Up

    Have you done a magnet test on the copper 1943 cents? That will tell you if they are jyst copper plated or not.
  10. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member

    Wow, they are steel, sigh.... I've had these for over forty years (inherited). Was plating done by mint or nefarious type? Thanks for the heads ups!
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wouldn't if I were you. The 1904 double eagle is basically selling for spot in grades up to and including MS63. Your coin, at best, would be put in a Genuine (PCGS) or Details (NGC) slab. Thus it is only worth its melt value.

    However, since it is already in a money clip, it may have some additional value to a coin collector to use it as a money clip, should you wish to sell it. So I'd just leave it alone.
  12. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member

    Thanks for the advice. I am strongly considering selling it. Anyone know a reputable appraiser in the Washington DC area?
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You don't need an appraiser. Take it to a jeweler and find out if the bezel is gold or not. That's the only additional thing you need to know. The clips I believe are brass, perhaps plated but I doubt that.
  14. Kavekreeker

    Kavekreeker New Member

    Clip is stamped 14K
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Even better. Then have the jeweler weigh it for you, and that's all you need. The weight of the coin is known, so you merely need to add the additional gold content from the clip and bezel and you have your total value - in gold anyway.

    Like I said, a collector may pay a bit more than the gold value just for the cool factor.
  16. cremebrule

    cremebrule Active Member

    And the cion appears to have some awesome luster. Great clip! (Don't get it graded)
  17. silverfool

    silverfool Active Member

    I like it as a money clip. leave it as is. I have an '04 double eagle along with lots of other people, it's a very common date. the money clip makes it cool. I would use it but the coin & clip would be worth more than my skimpy wad of $$
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