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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2226199, member: 56859"]So... I had the irresistible urge for another mixed lot and this time went for some Late Roman Bronzes. Sure, it is possible to read books on LRBs and study RIC to better understand the classifications, but it's much more fun to have unidentified coins in hand while doing so.</p><p><br /></p><p>The lot I chose did come with a picture, one in which the coins were simply piled haphazardly. There were a smattering of campgates and I didn't have any of those, so that lot got my bid.</p><p><br /></p><p>The value of the lot was definitely in the campgates. Although none are high-dollar, if I sell most of them I'd definitely pay for the lot and the leftovers. The remainder of the lot consists primarily of lower grade commemoratives which I'll probably keep just for funzies, perhaps giving some away to people who can't believe they can have and hold a ~1700 year old coin <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't have any dedicated books for LRBs but utilized Dane's amazing spreadsheet for campgates. Dane is the woman behind Wildwinds. <a href="http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm" rel="nofollow">Her other site</a> is where you can find numerous painstakingly compiled spreadsheets. At first it was overwhelming but after attributing a few I got the hang of it. One thing was interesting: the majority of the campgate coins were listed as some degree of rare. As a group, campgates of most emperors are quite common. If you sort them further by a number of relatively esoteric details (dot on door, certain mints, etc), certain variants become "rare". I don't know what her sample size was when determining rarity. However, I seriously doubt those degrees of rarity matter for most campgates... any interested party would likely value the individual coin based on condition and strike rather than a rarity grade based on relatively esoteric details.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of the eighteen campgates, sixteen were of Constantine I, one of Constantine II, and one of Crispus. Most were from Antioch. Most are of a similar common style. Many have quite a bit of silvering. I with one of them had open doors but these are all doorless. Obviously, I don't need to keep all 18 similar-looking campgates so I'll set a few aside and probably sell the rest at some point.</p><p><br /></p><p>When beginning the attribution process, the most difficult thing was figuring out the bust style (laurel vs diadem vs pearl diadem; draped, cuirassed, etc). For purposes of Dane's spreadsheet and rarities, details such as head wear, clothing, bust direction, little dots, field letters, and mintmarks were considered even though it didn't always result in a different RIC number. </p><p><br /></p><p>I learned a few things while attributing these campgates but have just scratched the surface. There is much more to read and understand. If you have any interesting tidbits about these campgate coins, please share your comments. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the first ten, with brief attributions. If you see any errors please let me know. The remaining eight will be in the next post since there is a limit to the number of images which can be uploaded to each post.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please post your favorite campgates <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 78, SMATΓ, rarity R4</b> (??? How rare can it be if there were three of them in this small mixed lot?):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]436938[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]436939[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]436940[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 78, SMANTE, rarity rating R3:</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]436947[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 78, SMANTZ, R3:</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]436950[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 81, SMANTB, dot in doorway, R3:</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]436951[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 84, SMANTE, R4: (pretty!!)</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]436953[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 84, SMANTZ, R3:</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]436957[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 63, SMANT, Δ-E across fields (9th officina; avoiding the "unlucky" theta, this officina used delta + epsilon, 4 + 5), R4:</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]436959[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 63, SMANTΔ, R1:</b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]436961[/ATTACH] </b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2226199, member: 56859"]So... I had the irresistible urge for another mixed lot and this time went for some Late Roman Bronzes. Sure, it is possible to read books on LRBs and study RIC to better understand the classifications, but it's much more fun to have unidentified coins in hand while doing so. The lot I chose did come with a picture, one in which the coins were simply piled haphazardly. There were a smattering of campgates and I didn't have any of those, so that lot got my bid. The value of the lot was definitely in the campgates. Although none are high-dollar, if I sell most of them I'd definitely pay for the lot and the leftovers. The remainder of the lot consists primarily of lower grade commemoratives which I'll probably keep just for funzies, perhaps giving some away to people who can't believe they can have and hold a ~1700 year old coin :). I don't have any dedicated books for LRBs but utilized Dane's amazing spreadsheet for campgates. Dane is the woman behind Wildwinds. [URL='http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm']Her other site[/URL] is where you can find numerous painstakingly compiled spreadsheets. At first it was overwhelming but after attributing a few I got the hang of it. One thing was interesting: the majority of the campgate coins were listed as some degree of rare. As a group, campgates of most emperors are quite common. If you sort them further by a number of relatively esoteric details (dot on door, certain mints, etc), certain variants become "rare". I don't know what her sample size was when determining rarity. However, I seriously doubt those degrees of rarity matter for most campgates... any interested party would likely value the individual coin based on condition and strike rather than a rarity grade based on relatively esoteric details. Of the eighteen campgates, sixteen were of Constantine I, one of Constantine II, and one of Crispus. Most were from Antioch. Most are of a similar common style. Many have quite a bit of silvering. I with one of them had open doors but these are all doorless. Obviously, I don't need to keep all 18 similar-looking campgates so I'll set a few aside and probably sell the rest at some point. When beginning the attribution process, the most difficult thing was figuring out the bust style (laurel vs diadem vs pearl diadem; draped, cuirassed, etc). For purposes of Dane's spreadsheet and rarities, details such as head wear, clothing, bust direction, little dots, field letters, and mintmarks were considered even though it didn't always result in a different RIC number. I learned a few things while attributing these campgates but have just scratched the surface. There is much more to read and understand. If you have any interesting tidbits about these campgate coins, please share your comments. Here are the first ten, with brief attributions. If you see any errors please let me know. The remaining eight will be in the next post since there is a limit to the number of images which can be uploaded to each post. Please post your favorite campgates :). [B]Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 78, SMATΓ, rarity R4[/B] (??? How rare can it be if there were three of them in this small mixed lot?): [ATTACH=full]436938[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]436939[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]436940[/ATTACH] [B]Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 78, SMANTE, rarity rating R3:[/B] [ATTACH=full]436947[/ATTACH] [B]Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 78, SMANTZ, R3:[/B] [ATTACH=full]436950[/ATTACH] [B]Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 81, SMANTB, dot in doorway, R3:[/B] [ATTACH=full]436951[/ATTACH] [B]Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 84, SMANTE, R4: (pretty!!) [ATTACH=full]436953[/ATTACH] Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 84, SMANTZ, R3: [ATTACH=full]436957[/ATTACH] Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 63, SMANT, Δ-E across fields (9th officina; avoiding the "unlucky" theta, this officina used delta + epsilon, 4 + 5), R4: [ATTACH=full]436959[/ATTACH] Constantine I, RIC VII Antioch 63, SMANTΔ, R1: [ATTACH=full]436961[/ATTACH] [/B][/QUOTE]
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