Adjustment marks or scratches?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by pianoman, Jul 7, 2020.

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  1. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    ...very tricky. A different lighting angle can reveal whether they are incuse or raised by highlighting the edges of the lines...otherwise the OP pic can be seen both ways for me too...

    BTW @Piano Man ...really like the coin. Can you post a shot of the reverse for us?…Spark
     
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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I learned something today from all the discussion. Nice coin thank you
     
    Mr.Q, Jul 8, 2020
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  4. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Did anyone else see a feather tickling Louis' nose? :D:eek:o_O
     
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  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Damn. I wanna believe you but I just can’t cut you any slack on this one. Maybe your first Mistake EVER
     
    Cheech9712, Aug 1, 2020
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  6. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Cool. Wanted @Inspector43 to remain flawless. I really counting am counting on mr.43. There’s a few equal to a females intelligence members that you just gotta believe. Like @johnmilton and @Mainebill The Maine crew I think
     
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  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Can you provide references or examples to illustrate US coins adjusted after striking? Roger Burdette says the blanks were adjusted before the upset mill (that is, before the blank was turned into a planchet.) He says that finished coins were never adjusted:

    https://www.ngccoin.com/boards/topi...-marks-are-impossible-to-find-on-later-coins/

    https://forums.collectors.com/discu...ng-adjustment-marks-for-the-coin-experts-here
     
    physics-fan3.14, Aug 1, 2020
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  8. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Thanks for the confidence. It is somewhat of an optical illusion. And I did qualify that with "looks" raised to me. You guys are right though, it is incused. Keep the feedback flowing.
     
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  9. GDJMSP

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    GDJMSP, Aug 2, 2020
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Doug, the thread linked in the post you linked answers this issue, and completely contradicts your assertion:

    The blanks were adjusted prior to strike.

    Yes, they were weighed after, but they were not adjusted after.

    They were just melted and recoined.

    I don't know how they did it in other countries, but in the US adjustment marks occured pre-strike.
     
    physics-fan3.14, Aug 2, 2020
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Jason if you read the whole thread I referenced you should have noticed that I refer to having read about coins being adjusted post strike in various articles and books over the years. Articles and books written by authors just as respected as Roger is. Roger is merely the most recent one to come along who discusses the issue. Can I quote you chapter and verse on the references ? No, I can't - wouldn't even pretend to be able to. No more than you or anyone can quote references for every book/article you've ever read. But that doesn't mean I haven't read about it, nor does it mean it isn't true.

    Also, that thread is just one instance. In the past I have had other conversations with Roger where the same subject was discussed and he has confirmed that yes, some coins, even in the US, were adjusted post strike prior to certain dates. His book, specifically deals only with coins struck from 1837 on.

    That said, all I do is offer information I have spent my life learning. It's your, and other's, choice to believe what I'm saying or not.
     
    GDJMSP, Aug 3, 2020
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm sorry Doug, but I just can't accept "Well, I read about it in a book a long time ago but can't remember where" as an authoritative or even acceptable statement of fact. Especially when you link to a discussion where the exact opposite is stated by a well known and thorough numismatic researcher.
     
    physics-fan3.14, Aug 3, 2020
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