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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;panzerman, post: 2973434, member: 77704&quot;]If one goes to site/ Top ten warrior formations in history of warfare/ the Waffen SS are number 8. We are talking here just the 1 million that fought on the both Eastern/ Western Fronts. Most were non German from Finland/ Latvia/ Estonia....ie Foreign Volunteers. The elite Panzer units like LAH/ Wiking/ Nordland/ Das Reich had records that were unsurpassed vs the Soviets. One also should remember, Zuhkovs method for clearing minefields was using penalty battalions to walk over them. War crimes were commited by both sides, but most soldiers were decent men. Soviets wartime propaganda has now been refuted since the USSR fell. At the Battle of Prokhorovka in July 43. It was stated by Stalin, that here the panzers were decimated. Well, not exactly. Paul Hausser&#039;s SS Panzer Army had 248 tanks, only 15&nbsp; Tigers. The Russian Guards had 850 tanks, when the smoke cleared, Soviet looses were 650+ tanks, German 48 (only one Tiger) Franz Staudegger in a Tiger knocked out 25 T-34s in twenty minutes. And yes, the Swiss probably also did some nasty stuff on the Battlefield. When men are swinging swords/ halberds/ war axes....it gets bloody awfull.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>John[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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