Added a bee to the collection: Ephesos diobole

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roerbakmix, May 29, 2020.

  1. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    This cointype has been on my wish list for quite a while, but I didn't actively pursue it. As most coins on my wish list, I either encounter them, or forget about them.
    Forgetting this type is somewhat difficult, as they are very recognizable. So when a collector I know, who's down-scaling his collection, put it online, I immediately pulled the trigger:
    GREECE, Anonymous. Denomination: AR Diobole, minted: Ionia, Ephesos; 387-295 BC
    Obv: Bee with straight wings
    Rev: Є Φ, ethnic in field above two stag's heads facing one another.
    Weight: 0.92g; Ø:9mm. Catalogue: SNG von Aulock 1835, BMC 53. Provenance: Ex. T. Nuij collection; acq.: 05-2020

    One has to realize that these coins are in fact quite small - something that is easily forgotten with macro photography. "In hand", the surface is less grainy, as the small granular texture simply is not discernible with the naked eye.

    Please post your coins from Ephesos, or anything that was on your wish list until recently.
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Nice bee, still on my list next to the turtle...
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Gorgeous DiObol, @Roerbakmix ... very nice. Well done. Great details.

    I have the Obol size:

    AR Obol
    Bee -
    opposing stag heads
    340 BCE
    Ex: Holding History
  5. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

  6. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

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  7. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    That's a very nice bee – mine is a little more pedestrian, provided that this word can be used for flying critters:

    Magna Graecia – Ionien, Ephesos, AE13, Biene und Hirsch.png
    Ionia, Ephesos, AE13, ca. 387–280 BC. Obv: bee, ethnic E–Φ. Rev: stag l., head turned r. 13mm, 1.84g. SNG von Aulock 1838; BMC 67.
  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great coin. I have yet to get stung by an ancient bee yet. Eventually.:oops:
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  9. montynj3417

    montynj3417 Active Member

    The "golden bee" was an emblem of the Merovingian Dynasty; the first line of ruling kings of what we now regard as France, proper. These were roughly the size of an actual honeybee. I recall reading that between 1-200 of these have been recovered. If you see one, you are likely gazing upon an object that was handled by a king of ancient France, who claimed lineal descent from Jesus Christ, himself. I wonder if the appearance of this image, as also seen on the above coins, conveys a coded subtext; as was not-uncommon in ancient times?
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    BEE - Ephesos

    AR Hemi-Drachm-TriObol
    Incuse Sq TIMESIANAX
    335-320 BCE
    Seaby 4368
  11. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Very nice diobol!

    My ephesos coins:
    Ephesos, Ionia. Drachm (500 - 420 B.C)
    Bee with curved wings, EΦEΣION.
    Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square
    Reference: BMC Ionia pg. 49, 12; SNG Copenhagen 210; SNG Kayhan 140
    3.20g; 14mm

    Ephesos, Ionia. Tetartemorion (500 - 420 B.C)
    Bee with curved wings
    Reverse: EΦ, eagle's head right within incuse square
    Reference: SNG Kayhan 126; Karwiese Series IV
    0.20g; 6mm
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    My poor man's example of a bee
    IONIA, Ephesos.jpg
    OBVERSE: E-F, bee
    REVERSE: Forepart of stag recumbent right, head left
    Sturck at Ephesos, ca 387-289 BC
    11mm, 1.63 g
    SNGCop 244
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I agree. My coins are better when viewed from a respectable distance, too.
    tetartemorion 0.2g like Pavlos' coin, it is small to have a legend even if it is just two letters.
    1/192 stater (Persic standard)? as described by seller??? Bee/bird head makes this 0.1g speck my smallest coin with two designs (no incuse punch). To be view accurately it should be 20 feet away on a laptop screen.
    Diobols are so massive (a whole gram!).
    At 0.8g I call this a trihemiobol. It is not plated but was surface enriched and wear produced a strange pattern.
  14. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Supporter! Supporter

    Ephesos AR Drachm
    Late 2nd - Early 1st century BC

    Ephesos AE19 Bee & Stag.jpg
  15. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thanks all! Added a few to my wish list :)

    I agree - blown up to massive proportoins, these tiny coins loose a bit of their appeal.
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