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<p>[QUOTE="TomCorona, post: 657167, member: 17621"]Would high pressure "air" (like the ones I always hear being used in coin shops) constitute damage?</p><p>What foreign substance is it that they are trying to remove? </p><p>(I don't think they're blow drying their hair but I could be wrong)</p><p>Doug..with all due respect..an analogy of what you would probably say if asked. I'd say, Doug..? What would be the best method to avoid drowning if I were to fall into the water? You'd say something like..well Tom..the best answer I could give you, would be simply to not go into the water. Could one possibly try swimming or not breathing under the water? Perhaps.......but consider this..how do you know what method of survival was ATTEMPTED the last time someone fell into the water and more importantly... did it even work? The answer is..you don't know, of course..and how could you?...and even if you did..how do you know what the circumstances surrounding the fall were? Were they pushed in? Did they just fall off a dock or were they dropped from a plane? Was it salt water? It makes a big difference because salt water has a different buoyancy than fresh water, and if the attempt was a failure...how do you know it was indeed from drowning in the water? Maybe it was from the pressure that was exerted on their back or neck when they hit the water? Maybe the said water source was frozen solid and they just split their head open? Maybe they fell onto a whale...went for a ride for several days before falling victim to de-hydration? Perhaps they were pecked to death by a small flock of sparrows and were already dead when they hit the water? If the attempt was successful and they told you that they had swum in....how do you know they weren't just carried to shore by a passing turtle? Or several? How do we know that the swift </p><p>current didn't just "push" them in and they only thought they were swimming.? Maybe a tidal wave snapped them through the air and they simply landed onshore after bouncing off a billboard? The point is that there are circumstances, conditions and all sorts of variables they cannot be duplicated exactly every time, or even twice. So you see Tom...this is a very difficult question to resolve, depending on the circumstances, so no generic answer is really possible. I could tell you to hold your breath and try swimming but it's far too simplistic and one scenario is different from another, and therefore really the answer, as I stated earlier, is to not go into the water as I wouldn't want to mislead the novice swimmer. YES, anything MAY be done falling into the water is best left to the professional swimmer. You see my point.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is how this whole "cleaning" subject seems to be approached by you and many others (when not completely ignored or very generally answered) at least from my perspective. I hope you see the point (as well as the humor):desk:</p><p>I love your knowledge and experience..just not your evasiveness and presumptions when it comes to information to this subject. I read all your posts (and others of the same obvious caliber) and consider them invaluable to me as a semi novice. They're always interesting, even when I disagree (though they do aggravate the hell out of me because there's considerable facts and opinions to the contrary). <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TomCorona, post: 657167, member: 17621"]Would high pressure "air" (like the ones I always hear being used in coin shops) constitute damage? What foreign substance is it that they are trying to remove? (I don't think they're blow drying their hair but I could be wrong) Doug..with all due respect..an analogy of what you would probably say if asked. I'd say, Doug..? What would be the best method to avoid drowning if I were to fall into the water? You'd say something like..well Tom..the best answer I could give you, would be simply to not go into the water. Could one possibly try swimming or not breathing under the water? Perhaps.......but consider this..how do you know what method of survival was ATTEMPTED the last time someone fell into the water and more importantly... did it even work? The answer is..you don't know, of course..and how could you?...and even if you did..how do you know what the circumstances surrounding the fall were? Were they pushed in? Did they just fall off a dock or were they dropped from a plane? Was it salt water? It makes a big difference because salt water has a different buoyancy than fresh water, and if the attempt was a failure...how do you know it was indeed from drowning in the water? Maybe it was from the pressure that was exerted on their back or neck when they hit the water? Maybe the said water source was frozen solid and they just split their head open? Maybe they fell onto a whale...went for a ride for several days before falling victim to de-hydration? Perhaps they were pecked to death by a small flock of sparrows and were already dead when they hit the water? If the attempt was successful and they told you that they had swum in....how do you know they weren't just carried to shore by a passing turtle? Or several? How do we know that the swift current didn't just "push" them in and they only thought they were swimming.? Maybe a tidal wave snapped them through the air and they simply landed onshore after bouncing off a billboard? The point is that there are circumstances, conditions and all sorts of variables they cannot be duplicated exactly every time, or even twice. So you see Tom...this is a very difficult question to resolve, depending on the circumstances, so no generic answer is really possible. I could tell you to hold your breath and try swimming but it's far too simplistic and one scenario is different from another, and therefore really the answer, as I stated earlier, is to not go into the water as I wouldn't want to mislead the novice swimmer. YES, anything MAY be done falling into the water is best left to the professional swimmer. You see my point. This is how this whole "cleaning" subject seems to be approached by you and many others (when not completely ignored or very generally answered) at least from my perspective. I hope you see the point (as well as the humor):desk: I love your knowledge and experience..just not your evasiveness and presumptions when it comes to information to this subject. I read all your posts (and others of the same obvious caliber) and consider them invaluable to me as a semi novice. They're always interesting, even when I disagree (though they do aggravate the hell out of me because there's considerable facts and opinions to the contrary). :)[/QUOTE]
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