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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Mainebill, post: 3262275, member: 44004&quot;]I have plenty of rose bushes here as I’m a big fan of antique or heirloom roses. I find a thornapple thorn gives me better grip and control as it’s usually an inch and a half long (don’t ever get one under your kneecap - it happened to me when i was 12 and think it started the beginnings of my lifetime of knee problems) I usually use this on copper with stubborn verdigris after a soak in verdicare as acetone and a q tip will basically get most anything that’s actually going to come off of silver[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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