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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 991488, member: 57463"]<b>It is an axiom that past prices are irrelevant. </b> At best they are a guide. They show what other buyers and sellers agreed on at some time. (Whether historical charts can predict feature prices is arguable.) </p><p><br /></p><p>Auction results have some merit, but realize that in auction, many bidders pursue one object. On the bourse floor, many sellers seek you, the buyer. At the shop, your relationship is worth more than all the guides. Auction results are reported. The others are not.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Read the fine print in the price guides.</b> They say that they neither buy nor sell the items listed. They only report a summary of prices reported to them. <b>They also say that a price in a category does not mean that an item in that category was actually bought or sold at all</b>. In every case, the chief editor has a set of valued dealers who help fill in the sheet, even if no sales were made. </p><p><br /></p><p>People will swear that this guide or that is reliable or way off. That is based on their own limited personal experience -- and that is fine: for them. "Your mileage may vary." I know active collectors and vest pocket dealers who get up to a dozen price guides: Red, Blue, Grey, Blue, Values, ... For all the difference it makes, the <i>Standard Catalog of World Coins </i>is a price guide for US coins. When I go to a coin show I carry a Red Book -- <b>from 1973</b>, because I don't know all the mintage numbers. (I mark it up, paste in ads, draw my own tables in the back....) </p><p><br /></p><p>There is an old joke: At Kurtz's Meat Market the customer says, "How can you charge 29 cents a pound for lamb, when Lennie has his for 25?" So, buy from Lennie. "But his is terrible." (Alternately: "He is sold out.")</p><p><br /></p><p>Our theories of pricing come from disparate -- often contradictory -- sources. Some people want coins to be fungible commodities, like wheat, so that all MS-63 1883-P Morgan Dollars are equal. Some people think that the price posted for that moment is the price that everyone paid at that moment, like the federally regulated stock markets.</p><p><br /></p><p>Visit the website of the <a href="http://www.eacs.org/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.eacs.org/" rel="nofollow">Early American Coppers</a>. There, active dealers post pictures and prices past and present. You can find the same thing at VCOINS, as well. And boards like CoinTalk have market areas, too.</p><p><br /></p><p>Price guides are only one source of information.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 991488, member: 57463"][B]It is an axiom that past prices are irrelevant. [/B] At best they are a guide. They show what other buyers and sellers agreed on at some time. (Whether historical charts can predict feature prices is arguable.) Auction results have some merit, but realize that in auction, many bidders pursue one object. On the bourse floor, many sellers seek you, the buyer. At the shop, your relationship is worth more than all the guides. Auction results are reported. The others are not. [B]Read the fine print in the price guides.[/B] They say that they neither buy nor sell the items listed. They only report a summary of prices reported to them. [B]They also say that a price in a category does not mean that an item in that category was actually bought or sold at all[/B]. In every case, the chief editor has a set of valued dealers who help fill in the sheet, even if no sales were made. People will swear that this guide or that is reliable or way off. That is based on their own limited personal experience -- and that is fine: for them. "Your mileage may vary." I know active collectors and vest pocket dealers who get up to a dozen price guides: Red, Blue, Grey, Blue, Values, ... For all the difference it makes, the [I]Standard Catalog of World Coins [/I]is a price guide for US coins. When I go to a coin show I carry a Red Book -- [B]from 1973[/B], because I don't know all the mintage numbers. (I mark it up, paste in ads, draw my own tables in the back....) There is an old joke: At Kurtz's Meat Market the customer says, "How can you charge 29 cents a pound for lamb, when Lennie has his for 25?" So, buy from Lennie. "But his is terrible." (Alternately: "He is sold out.") Our theories of pricing come from disparate -- often contradictory -- sources. Some people want coins to be fungible commodities, like wheat, so that all MS-63 1883-P Morgan Dollars are equal. Some people think that the price posted for that moment is the price that everyone paid at that moment, like the federally regulated stock markets. Visit the website of the [URL="http://www.eacs.org/"]Early American Coppers[/URL]. There, active dealers post pictures and prices past and present. You can find the same thing at VCOINS, as well. And boards like CoinTalk have market areas, too. Price guides are only one source of information.[/QUOTE]
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