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<p>[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 4668292, member: 105571"]Here's the explanation on capital gains tax on collectibles which includes coins. Long term capital gains on collectibles held over one year is 28% which is paid on the difference between the basis and what you sell it for. The basis is basically what you bought it for including certain additional costs of acquisition. The government does not consider your hobby to be a productive activity that benefits the country hence the high long-term capital gains compared to other investments.</p><p><br /></p><p>The basis cost cannot be indexed upward for inflation, back to one of the earlier points in this thread. So, let's buy a coin for $1000 and hold it for ten years where each year the inflation rate is 2%. If you could index, then the indexed basis would not be $1000 but rather 1000 x 1.02^10 or $1219. So, with indexing your basis cost rises and the capital gains that you owe 28% on is reduced from what it is under current law. </p><p><br /></p><p>But think about this: Let's say you get your favorite auction house to promote your favorite 2017 ultra-mega Proof 71 coin from Burkina Faso showing an incuse view of the capital city of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouagadougou" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouagadougou" rel="nofollow">Ouagadougou</a> for $1000 capital gain. Then you have to pay the auction house some percentage, maybe 5%, plus paying Uncle Sugar his 28% of your $1000 capital gains.</p><p><br /></p><p>What if you didn't keep any records of your purchase price? Why then, the government gives you an opportunity to suggest a reasonable value which you of course high-ball and the government rejects and "suggests" a much lower one. After some back and forth during which you are paying off your tax attorney's Porsche the government wins anyway and oh, by the way, hands you some penalties and interest on top of all the previous indignities.</p><p><br /></p><p>All in all, it's pretty financially discouraging to be a collector. Why do we do it? Must be the love of the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>See the link for more details on capital gains on collectibles.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/061715/how-are-collectibles-taxed.asp#:~:text=If%20collectibles%20are%20sold%20at,commissions%20involved%20with%20that%20purchase" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/061715/how-are-collectibles-taxed.asp#:~:text=If%20collectibles%20are%20sold%20at,commissions%20involved%20with%20that%20purchase" rel="nofollow">https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/061715/how-are-collectibles-taxed.asp#:~:text=If collectibles are sold at,commissions involved with that purchase</a>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 4668292, member: 105571"]Here's the explanation on capital gains tax on collectibles which includes coins. Long term capital gains on collectibles held over one year is 28% which is paid on the difference between the basis and what you sell it for. The basis is basically what you bought it for including certain additional costs of acquisition. The government does not consider your hobby to be a productive activity that benefits the country hence the high long-term capital gains compared to other investments. The basis cost cannot be indexed upward for inflation, back to one of the earlier points in this thread. So, let's buy a coin for $1000 and hold it for ten years where each year the inflation rate is 2%. If you could index, then the indexed basis would not be $1000 but rather 1000 x 1.02^10 or $1219. So, with indexing your basis cost rises and the capital gains that you owe 28% on is reduced from what it is under current law. But think about this: Let's say you get your favorite auction house to promote your favorite 2017 ultra-mega Proof 71 coin from Burkina Faso showing an incuse view of the capital city of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouagadougou']Ouagadougou[/URL] for $1000 capital gain. Then you have to pay the auction house some percentage, maybe 5%, plus paying Uncle Sugar his 28% of your $1000 capital gains. What if you didn't keep any records of your purchase price? Why then, the government gives you an opportunity to suggest a reasonable value which you of course high-ball and the government rejects and "suggests" a much lower one. After some back and forth during which you are paying off your tax attorney's Porsche the government wins anyway and oh, by the way, hands you some penalties and interest on top of all the previous indignities. All in all, it's pretty financially discouraging to be a collector. Why do we do it? Must be the love of the coins. See the link for more details on capital gains on collectibles. [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/061715/how-are-collectibles-taxed.asp#:~:text=If%20collectibles%20are%20sold%20at,commissions%20involved%20with%20that%20purchase[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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