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<p>[QUOTE="Ethan, post: 1924002, member: 68800"]Well I just added some information and link to one that sold for $14. I think I would have grabbed that if I had known what I know now.</p><p><br /></p><p>- Went through all my 64 Proofs (20).......second to last one, I found it. It is not a Cameo but it is in great shape. So I have found one of these in the wild also. I have only found one Accented Hair in the wild so that is a tie.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Found some more information on these,</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=812320" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=812320" rel="nofollow">http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=812320</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My Cherrypicker's 4th Edition has it somewhat, its says an AH in PR65 is worth $20 and the normal variety in PR65 is $9. So 1/2 the AH. Well I am not to sure about this.</p><p><br /></p><p>So lets dig a bit and maybe someone that has some population figures can cross it over to PCGS and NGC.</p><p><br /></p><p>From ANACS Website (2012) Date.....</p><p>1964 PF TYPE 1 STRAIGHT G (29)</p><p>1964 PF ACCENTED HAIR FS-401 (242)</p><p><br /></p><p>That is roughly 12% of the Accented Hair Type. Now we should interpolate some things. First, this is almost unknown compared to the AH type. As I have found there is no real demand for these that I can find. I think this is strange as they have to be uncommon and any Kennedy collector should want one. </p><p><br /></p><p>Again gathering some information on the AH at;</p><p><a href="http://www.ipotad.com/pages/ah2.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ipotad.com/pages/ah2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipotad.com/pages/ah2.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>and here;</p><p><a href="http://kennedyhalfdollars.net/1964-accented-hair-variety-kennedy-half-dollar/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://kennedyhalfdollars.net/1964-accented-hair-variety-kennedy-half-dollar/" rel="nofollow">http://kennedyhalfdollars.net/1964-accented-hair-variety-kennedy-half-dollar/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So if I take my random sample of 20 and I found one, then that is 5%.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can not remember where but I think that I read that the obverse die is used for 2/3 of the time that the reverse is. I am not positive about this, so I will just use a conservative figure of 1/3 more for the Reverse Die.</p><p><br /></p><p>If we take the guesstimated mintage of Accented Hair Kennedy's at 100,000. That leaves about 50,000 of these theoretically.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lets assume 25% were melted around 1980 and maybe some in 2011.</p><p><br /></p><p>That takes us to around 37,500. This is a round number, you see how I came up with it so take it with a grain of salt. </p><p><br /></p><p>However, if one were to find a Cameo/Deep Cameo of these, then the ballgame changes. I remember seeing somewhere that NGC and PCGS each have around 1000 of the 64 Cameo's. I can not remember the Accented Hair Cameos but I would bet that these are even more rare. Think about it, the dies were used towards the end stage, before Mrs. Kennedy made them change it. If Cameo's only make up say 15% of the total numbers, then these Type 2 Obverse - Type 1 Reverse coins should only have a population of at most 12% of the regular ones. Remember that ANACS probably has a higher percentage of these graded as they are the only ones to slab them.</p><p><br /></p><p>I forgot I can get into NGC so lets take a look shall we?</p><p><br /></p><p>1964 AH 7809</p><p>1964 AH CAM 1031</p><p>1964 AH DCAM 63</p><p><br /></p><p>Lets look at PCGS</p><p><br /></p><p>1964 AH 4075</p><p>1964 AH CAM 808</p><p>1964 AH DCAM 94</p><p><br /></p><p>Well that is around 14,000 Accented Hair Kennedy's that have been slabbed. I am not going to change that number even though I know some are crossovers and resubmitted coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just seeing these numbers makes me think that of these Type 2 Obverse - Type 1 Reverse numbers should come out conservatively around here:</p><p><br /></p><p>1964 T2O-T1R ~ 6500</p><p>1964 T2O-T1R CAM ~ 1000</p><p>1964 T2O-T1R DCAM ~ 85</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well there you have it, my afternoon gone but I did enjoy it. Maybe we have a Sleeper Kennedy on our hands.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>PS. In my research I came up with this thread in CoinTalk.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.com/threads/kennedy-accented-hair-reverse-die.191876/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/threads/kennedy-accented-hair-reverse-die.191876/">http://www.cointalk.com/threads/kennedy-accented-hair-reverse-die.191876/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ethan, post: 1924002, member: 68800"]Well I just added some information and link to one that sold for $14. I think I would have grabbed that if I had known what I know now. - Went through all my 64 Proofs (20).......second to last one, I found it. It is not a Cameo but it is in great shape. So I have found one of these in the wild also. I have only found one Accented Hair in the wild so that is a tie. Found some more information on these, [url]http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=812320[/url] My Cherrypicker's 4th Edition has it somewhat, its says an AH in PR65 is worth $20 and the normal variety in PR65 is $9. So 1/2 the AH. Well I am not to sure about this. So lets dig a bit and maybe someone that has some population figures can cross it over to PCGS and NGC. From ANACS Website (2012) Date..... 1964 PF TYPE 1 STRAIGHT G (29) 1964 PF ACCENTED HAIR FS-401 (242) That is roughly 12% of the Accented Hair Type. Now we should interpolate some things. First, this is almost unknown compared to the AH type. As I have found there is no real demand for these that I can find. I think this is strange as they have to be uncommon and any Kennedy collector should want one. Again gathering some information on the AH at; [url]http://www.ipotad.com/pages/ah2.html[/url] and here; [url]http://kennedyhalfdollars.net/1964-accented-hair-variety-kennedy-half-dollar/[/url] So if I take my random sample of 20 and I found one, then that is 5%. I can not remember where but I think that I read that the obverse die is used for 2/3 of the time that the reverse is. I am not positive about this, so I will just use a conservative figure of 1/3 more for the Reverse Die. If we take the guesstimated mintage of Accented Hair Kennedy's at 100,000. That leaves about 50,000 of these theoretically. Lets assume 25% were melted around 1980 and maybe some in 2011. That takes us to around 37,500. This is a round number, you see how I came up with it so take it with a grain of salt. However, if one were to find a Cameo/Deep Cameo of these, then the ballgame changes. I remember seeing somewhere that NGC and PCGS each have around 1000 of the 64 Cameo's. I can not remember the Accented Hair Cameos but I would bet that these are even more rare. Think about it, the dies were used towards the end stage, before Mrs. Kennedy made them change it. If Cameo's only make up say 15% of the total numbers, then these Type 2 Obverse - Type 1 Reverse coins should only have a population of at most 12% of the regular ones. Remember that ANACS probably has a higher percentage of these graded as they are the only ones to slab them. I forgot I can get into NGC so lets take a look shall we? 1964 AH 7809 1964 AH CAM 1031 1964 AH DCAM 63 Lets look at PCGS 1964 AH 4075 1964 AH CAM 808 1964 AH DCAM 94 Well that is around 14,000 Accented Hair Kennedy's that have been slabbed. I am not going to change that number even though I know some are crossovers and resubmitted coins. Just seeing these numbers makes me think that of these Type 2 Obverse - Type 1 Reverse numbers should come out conservatively around here: 1964 T2O-T1R ~ 6500 1964 T2O-T1R CAM ~ 1000 1964 T2O-T1R DCAM ~ 85 Well there you have it, my afternoon gone but I did enjoy it. Maybe we have a Sleeper Kennedy on our hands. PS. In my research I came up with this thread in CoinTalk. [url]http://www.cointalk.com/threads/kennedy-accented-hair-reverse-die.191876/[/url][/QUOTE]
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