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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;John Conduitt, post: 7813649, member: 109923&quot;]Interesting coin. As [USER=21445]@Mat[/USER] says, it really does look like a Byzantine M on the reverse if you don&#039;t look closely, or one of these:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Mu&#039;awiya I Drachm, 668-669</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1342761[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Sakastan. Silver, 33.5mm, 3.77g (Album 5).</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Although actually this is an Umayyad rip off of a Sassanian drachm, copying:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Khosrow II Drachm, 623</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1342763[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Ahmatana. Silver, 33mm, 4.10g (Göbl type II/2).</b></p><p><br /></p><p>By the time the design got to Gujarat, it looked like this:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Gadhaiya Paisa Drachm, 1022-1135</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1342764[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Silver, 17mm, 4.40g. Stylized Indo-Sassanian bust wearing sun and moon crown. Stylized fire altar with crescent moon (Mitcher 427).</b></p><p><br /></p><p>I have a few barbarous issues of Constantinian coins, but they&#039;re a bit too good to be considered abstract. By contrast, my earlier Roman contemporary counterfeits are terrible in every way. Here is one of the better ones, although I don&#039;t have the official equivalent:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Tetricus I Barbarous Radiate, 280-300</b></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1342775[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Imitating Cologne, after AD 274. Bronze, 13mm, 0.86g. (IMP TET)RICVS (P F AVG). SAL(VS AVGG), Salus standing (cf RIC V2 127).</b> Ex. Whitchurch Hoard, Somerset.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Tetricus I Antoninianus, 273-4</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1342779[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Mint II (Trier or Cologne). Bronze, 19mm, 3.13g. IMP TETRICVS P F AVG. HILARITAS AVGG, Hilaritas standing left, holding long branch and cornucopiae (RIC V2 80). </b>Ex Pamphill Hoard.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also have a few Pre-Roman &#039;Thurrock&#039; potins, which I&#039;ve shown a few times before, but became very abstract. The design slowly developed from coins from the Greek colony of Massalia (Marseille).</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the type of coin the Cantii (from Kent) copied:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2020-8-10_20-4-53-png.1157679/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Bronze hemiobol, 15mm, late 3rd to mid-2nd century BC, Massalia. Head of Apollo left. Bull butting right, MA above (for Massalia). Found in Kent.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Over time, this morphed into a very abstract design that would be indecipherable without the intervening coins:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2020-8-10_20-9-57-png.1157683/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Potin, 85-50BC, Kent. Head of Apollo left. Bull butting right (S.63).</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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