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<p>[QUOTE="Pellinore, post: 4850870, member: 74834"]A caliph with a doubtful legacy, as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mu%27tasim#Death_and_legacy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mu%27tasim#Death_and_legacy" rel="nofollow">this section in the extensive and detailed Wikipedia article</a> states clearly. 'Al-Mu'tasim's military reforms are truly <i>the moment when the Arabs lost control of the empire they created</i>'. </p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, Al-Mu'tasim's Byzantine wars didn't lead to anything lasting. There were a few years when the caliphs and the emperors were sparring (this cost many thousands of ordinary citizens their lives), and after 845 a period of peace negotiations and quiet occurred. </p><p><br /></p><p>I don't have coins from this particular caliph, but this fals is almost contemporary, a bronze coin from a loyal governor (one of the very few) in the far east of the Abbasid state, Abdallah ibn Tahir I (828-845). And naturally, animals were very rarely used on islamic coins. </p><p>Abbasid/Tahirid governors (emirs) of Khwarezm (Kath), AE fals, AH 228 = 843 AD. Аl-amir Mīkāl mawlâ Ṭāhir under Abdallah ibn Tahir I (828-845). Obv. Horse t.r. Rev. Mohammad rasul. 21.5 mm, 1.64 gr. Kath, now Beruniy, was the capital of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khwarazm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khwarazm" rel="nofollow">Khwarezm</a>. Album J1395. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1171539[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pellinore, post: 4850870, member: 74834"]A caliph with a doubtful legacy, as [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mu%27tasim#Death_and_legacy']this section in the extensive and detailed Wikipedia article[/URL] states clearly. 'Al-Mu'tasim's military reforms are truly [I]the moment when the Arabs lost control of the empire they created[/I]'. On the other hand, Al-Mu'tasim's Byzantine wars didn't lead to anything lasting. There were a few years when the caliphs and the emperors were sparring (this cost many thousands of ordinary citizens their lives), and after 845 a period of peace negotiations and quiet occurred. I don't have coins from this particular caliph, but this fals is almost contemporary, a bronze coin from a loyal governor (one of the very few) in the far east of the Abbasid state, Abdallah ibn Tahir I (828-845). And naturally, animals were very rarely used on islamic coins. Abbasid/Tahirid governors (emirs) of Khwarezm (Kath), AE fals, AH 228 = 843 AD. Аl-amir Mīkāl mawlâ Ṭāhir under Abdallah ibn Tahir I (828-845). Obv. Horse t.r. Rev. Mohammad rasul. 21.5 mm, 1.64 gr. Kath, now Beruniy, was the capital of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khwarazm']Khwarezm[/URL]. Album J1395. [ATTACH=full]1171539[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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