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<p>[QUOTE="petronius, post: 1419521, member: 37365"]What do you think about fakes vintage? Not the modern reproductions for collectors (as for Civil War) but "real fakes" that circulated next to genuine notes and coins.</p><p>I believe that, in some way, they have fulfilled the function of a coin, to circulate and be spent, and therefore can find a little place in a collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>According with my idea, I have some of these in my collection of WWII notes.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first is 5 pounds of the famous <i>Operation Bernhard</i>.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1942 the Nazis had begun a project to counterfeit British notes. From the name of the director of this project, SS Major Walter Bernhard Kruger, it is known as <i>Operation Bernhard</i>.</p><p>The Nazis assembled a group of Jewish artists, engravers, printers and techincians, to produce the counterfeit notes in the concentration camp of Sachsenhausen, 25 miles northwest of Berlin.</p><p>The group produced foolproof fakes of £ 5, £ 10, £ 20 and £ 50 notes. Probably, they investigated even the possibility to produce fakes of £ 100, £ 500 and £ 1000, but they did not, there are no samples.</p><p><br /></p><p>In early 1944 the group began work on US $ 100 notes, but also of these there are no samples.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]172776.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>But, how to identify a Bernhard fake?</p><p><br /></p><p>Once, the most reliable detection characteristic for identification, was the watermark. A line extends downward from the foot of the first <i>N</i> in England. On the counterfeits it extends from the center of the pedestal, on genuine notes the line is left of the pedestal center....but it's not easy to locate.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then, a study by Lance Campbell, revealed the block number ranges for the counterfeits. If a note is not within these ranges, it's not a Bernhard fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>These are the block ranges:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>£ 5 </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>A128-275, A281-314, A317-398, B105-131, B134-182, B186-237 (my note is B233), B256-279, J373-377 </p><p><br /></p><p><b>£ 10</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>K102-184, K187-199, L100-107, V105-153, V163-170</p><p><br /></p><p><b>£ 20</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>M43-55</p><p><br /></p><p><b>£ 50</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>N42-61</p><p><br /></p><p>petronius :smile[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="petronius, post: 1419521, member: 37365"]What do you think about fakes vintage? Not the modern reproductions for collectors (as for Civil War) but "real fakes" that circulated next to genuine notes and coins. I believe that, in some way, they have fulfilled the function of a coin, to circulate and be spent, and therefore can find a little place in a collection. According with my idea, I have some of these in my collection of WWII notes. The first is 5 pounds of the famous [I]Operation Bernhard[/I]. In 1942 the Nazis had begun a project to counterfeit British notes. From the name of the director of this project, SS Major Walter Bernhard Kruger, it is known as [I]Operation Bernhard[/I]. The Nazis assembled a group of Jewish artists, engravers, printers and techincians, to produce the counterfeit notes in the concentration camp of Sachsenhausen, 25 miles northwest of Berlin. The group produced foolproof fakes of £ 5, £ 10, £ 20 and £ 50 notes. Probably, they investigated even the possibility to produce fakes of £ 100, £ 500 and £ 1000, but they did not, there are no samples. In early 1944 the group began work on US $ 100 notes, but also of these there are no samples. [ATTACH]172776.vB[/ATTACH] But, how to identify a Bernhard fake? Once, the most reliable detection characteristic for identification, was the watermark. A line extends downward from the foot of the first [I]N[/I] in England. On the counterfeits it extends from the center of the pedestal, on genuine notes the line is left of the pedestal center....but it's not easy to locate. Then, a study by Lance Campbell, revealed the block number ranges for the counterfeits. If a note is not within these ranges, it's not a Bernhard fake. These are the block ranges: [B]£ 5 [/B]A128-275, A281-314, A317-398, B105-131, B134-182, B186-237 (my note is B233), B256-279, J373-377 [B]£ 10 [/B]K102-184, K187-199, L100-107, V105-153, V163-170 [B]£ 20 [/B]M43-55 [B]£ 50 [/B]N42-61 petronius :smile[/QUOTE]
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