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<p>[QUOTE="svessien, post: 4590537, member: 15481"]It’s always a learning experience to read your posts, [USER=81887]@Parthicus[/USER] Thank you for sharing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coming from an area that was «uncivilized» but still highly influenced by the Roman and Byzantine empire, I find it very interesting to read about these numismatic imitations.</p><p><br /></p><p>It’s hard to imagine that the Mediterranian and Middle East was such an inspiration for the Scandinavian peoples already during the late Roman and early Byzantine era, but it was indeed. A couple of years ago, the local union of metal detector enthusiasts participated in a search in eastern Norway (horrible place), to assist an archeaological excavation there. More than 500 finds were collected, and the preliminary find list includes 32 dirham fragments, 40 weights, 27 metal ingots (two of these of silver). Here is a weight with pseudo-arabic inscription found:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1136649[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Western Norway has probably been earlier trading with the continent. Here is a wonderful lot dated 375-550 AD found 5 minutes walk from where I grew up. I think the metal work looks like that of the Gauls:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1136650[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The Vikings would still wait some hundrd years before they started to produce their own coinage, and when they did, it was the Anglo Saxon penny that would be the main inspiration. Coin week makes a good presentation here:</p><p><a href="https://coinweek.com/ancient-coins/coinweek-ancient-coin-series-coins-of-the-vikings/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coinweek.com/ancient-coins/coinweek-ancient-coin-series-coins-of-the-vikings/" rel="nofollow">https://coinweek.com/ancient-coins/coinweek-ancient-coin-series-coins-of-the-vikings/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The islamic silver dirhems were still very popular among the Vikings, and are the coins most often found in Norway and Sweden from the era. I have seen Scandinavian dirhem imitations here, but was unable to find an example online. I found this article with other imitations, however, among them a Khazan imitation:</p><p><a href="https://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/03/some-imitation-islamic-coins.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/03/some-imitation-islamic-coins.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/03/some-imitation-islamic-coins.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, this Oriental inspiration is starting to cost me, Parthicus. I can’t just read about these coins, I need to feel them too. So I’m also waiting for a coin from the time and area, albeit a little later:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1136654[/ATTACH]</p><p>Artuqids of Mardin, Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan, 1200-1239. AE Dirhem Mardin(?) AH 618 = AD 1221.</p><p><br /></p><p>Obverse: Bare-headed and draped bust facing slightly l.; name and titles of Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan around.</p><p><br /></p><p>Reverse: Name and titles citing the Abbasid caliph "al-Nasir" and the Ayyubid sultan "al-'Adil"; Artuqid tamgha flanked by stars above.</p><p><br /></p><p>Reference: Album 1830.4. S/S 40. Butak 44. (Must be checked with date)</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight: 5.70g Diameter: 23mm Conservation: Very Fine[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="svessien, post: 4590537, member: 15481"]It’s always a learning experience to read your posts, [USER=81887]@Parthicus[/USER] Thank you for sharing. Coming from an area that was «uncivilized» but still highly influenced by the Roman and Byzantine empire, I find it very interesting to read about these numismatic imitations. It’s hard to imagine that the Mediterranian and Middle East was such an inspiration for the Scandinavian peoples already during the late Roman and early Byzantine era, but it was indeed. A couple of years ago, the local union of metal detector enthusiasts participated in a search in eastern Norway (horrible place), to assist an archeaological excavation there. More than 500 finds were collected, and the preliminary find list includes 32 dirham fragments, 40 weights, 27 metal ingots (two of these of silver). Here is a weight with pseudo-arabic inscription found: [ATTACH=full]1136649[/ATTACH] Western Norway has probably been earlier trading with the continent. Here is a wonderful lot dated 375-550 AD found 5 minutes walk from where I grew up. I think the metal work looks like that of the Gauls: [ATTACH=full]1136650[/ATTACH] The Vikings would still wait some hundrd years before they started to produce their own coinage, and when they did, it was the Anglo Saxon penny that would be the main inspiration. Coin week makes a good presentation here: [URL]https://coinweek.com/ancient-coins/coinweek-ancient-coin-series-coins-of-the-vikings/[/URL] The islamic silver dirhems were still very popular among the Vikings, and are the coins most often found in Norway and Sweden from the era. I have seen Scandinavian dirhem imitations here, but was unable to find an example online. I found this article with other imitations, however, among them a Khazan imitation: [URL]https://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/03/some-imitation-islamic-coins.html[/URL] Finally, this Oriental inspiration is starting to cost me, Parthicus. I can’t just read about these coins, I need to feel them too. So I’m also waiting for a coin from the time and area, albeit a little later: [ATTACH=full]1136654[/ATTACH] Artuqids of Mardin, Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan, 1200-1239. AE Dirhem Mardin(?) AH 618 = AD 1221. Obverse: Bare-headed and draped bust facing slightly l.; name and titles of Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan around. Reverse: Name and titles citing the Abbasid caliph "al-Nasir" and the Ayyubid sultan "al-'Adil"; Artuqid tamgha flanked by stars above. Reference: Album 1830.4. S/S 40. Butak 44. (Must be checked with date) Weight: 5.70g Diameter: 23mm Conservation: Very Fine[/QUOTE]
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