A transaction between forum members.....maybe???

I'll reiterate, You should be Thanking them for not completing the verbal agreement . As for the individual member not responding to you e-mails, thats just poor judgement on their part, albeit frustrating for you I'm sure . My suggestion to you is simply this, move on and go reap your additional profits as silver is just shy of $50.00 per ounce today.

 

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I do not agree about few of the people working for a living
here on coin talk
I know there is a lot of hard working people out there
For example at age 18 I worked in a well known BRASS MILL
over a 100 degrees in the summer time even hotter arounf the furnaces
froze our tail off in the winter time, had so many clothes on we could not move
12 - 16 hrs a day 6 days a week, drove 50 miles one way
go home so tired we could not eat, missed family functions
we was on strike picketed in sub zero weather for 3 months
just toget our point across.
Yes i do set around home alot on the computer - Not by choice
I did not ask to be in this health situation - but I am and have
accepted it
Yes you hit a nerve when you said that you are one of the few coin talkers that work for for a living I usually don,t reply but I had to on this one
And yes ifI was able to work in those conditions again I would
in a heartbeat .

 

I had that same thought when I saw that excerpt from the PM from the buyer. I know a lot of people here work very hard. I am no different. I know I'm still in school...but I see patients every day and I go to class. I regularly pull 70-80 hour work weeks. So, that comment kind of irritated me. The nerve of the buyer to say something like that...and then use it as an excuse.

 

Imagine this: You're standing in line at a store. you've seen the customer in front of you multiple times at this store, they have a few items and the cashier tells them their total then the customer, without saying anything just walks away without paying and without what they wanted. Now, the logical thing for this cashier to do, would be maybe give a slight confused look toward the customer, maybe chuckle, remove the items from the counter to be put back on the shelf so other people can buy them, then the cashier continues and helps you checkout.

Now imagine, if the same thing happened, but instead of just moving on the cashier made a big deal out of it, called their manager to their counter and started complaining about how a customer walked away. About how the customer had their credit card in their hand and was handing it to you, but then must have changed their mind and just walked away. Imagine if that cashier wanted to take it upon themselves to go to other stores and give the employees there a warning about the awful customer who walked away at the cash register.

Which of these two stories did the cashier act in a more mature, professional manor?

 

Holding a grudge is the hardest work to do.

 

I understand your point...but I think you're example is a bit of an extreme. I think posting a thread like this is OK to get some advice, but I also agree that it has drug on a bit too long and has kind of became a "complaining session." I think it is just time to let it go and move on.

 

Overall I would say if you say something publicly you will be in the wrong. Business deals are just that, business. The OP does not know if his measage notification is working properly, etc. To publicly call someone out on something like this I would say would border slander. This is not the same as you sending him coins and his check bouncing, this is a prospective business deal that didn't come to fruition, happens every day. If you dislike his business method, don't do business with him.

This forum is not the appropriate place to voice your being disgruntled that a business deal did not go through. If you feel strongly about it inform a moderator and let them decide if the member should be privately punished, or simply to let them know what is going on. Like I said, you do not even have proof that the member has read your PM, lots of things can go wonky on computers and on chat forums.

 

I would be careful even doing this. Nothing is proven that the member is ignoring you or anything. I would say you just "gossiping" this via PM is a very untoward thing to do as well. Sorry man, but if you have a beef with this aborted transaction, I would say a moderator is the only one who should hear about it, not anyone who PM's you asking for the "scoop".

Just my opinion.

Chris

 

Thanks for posting this.. it is exactly what I am thinking.. gossip leaning. I agree with your point about a moderator being the only one who should hear about it.. and with that I will not continue to read the rest of this thread, for then I become part of the gossip mill.

Regards,
Lucy

 

I agree also I'm done reading this thread. But I had to speak up for the hard working people & ones in college studying hard for a future .

 

I do not hold a grudge, and this was never meant to be a 'bashing ceremony'. In my first post, I posed 2 questions.....you people are the ones that ran with it. I asked 2 questions, and instead of answering them, I'm being called out for wanting 'revenge', this is no place for this, that it should go to a moderator.....this was to help YOU people judge who can be trusted to follow through and who won't.

The member the deal was with has STILL not posted in this thread, nor PM'ed me. Why? Because there is only one side to the story, and it has been posted. Why didn't I just come right out and out him? Courtesy. For those that feel it should be kept hush hush, or that this forum is no place for my original post, think again, because THIS forum is where it began. For those that have something against someone trying to help other members make smart decisions about who to deal with, I hope you don't have to be left in the lurch as I have.

As far as 'not being notified', theres a big blue box in the top right that shows notifications. I know it works, judging by the MANY I have gotten wanting to know who it is that walked away without any notification. Now if you'll excuse me, I have more PM's to answer.

 

I am one of the latter...which is why my time is valuable, as well as looking forward to extra $$ from a sale.

Though, I will say this......in the member's defense, I would bet he wasn't trying to demean anyone by his comment about working. I did NOT put that in to make him look bad. His actions with the transaction, different story, but I'm sure he wasn't trying to be 'better' than anyone.

 

Left in a lurch? I am just curious about that statement. So a business deal didn't go through. Do you still have your material? Did you have to sell to another seller at a lower price? I have no problem if you were swindled to being mad, but what I have read here is that you weren't, you were merely discussing a business deal and for some reason, (which you do not know), it didn't go through. It can be frustrating, sure, my company just had a $4 million sale fall through. I was just merely saying a fallen through business deal in which you still have your goods and the market in the meantime hadn't crashed 25% does not rise to being "left in a lurch", or swindled, or anything else. Short of that, I do not think posting a member's name here, or advertising you will tell people via PM the name, is really justified. In fact, if I were the member you are referring to, I would be a complaint to admins about YOU doing that to my name here.

Frustrating, yes sir it is. I just think you are making it worst here.

Just my opinion.

Chris

Btw, love the Rickles pic. He is still my favorite comedian.

 

Blah blah blah........

 

Chris, I totally understand your points. I am not saying I was swindled, or anything that left me 'short'. In my original post, I asked two simple questions, nothing more, and mentioned NO names. On other coin forums, members WANT to know who to stay away from when things of this nature happen. A transaction initiated by another (remember, I made NO mention they were for sale here, I mentioned they were going to the B&M, and the member asked for them...I didn't put them out there), on a member only forum, should be handled with courtesy, and when an 'electronic handshake' is made, both parties should abide by it. It is a small community we have here, one which is supposed to BENEFIT us, unlike ebay, where people are 'taken' daily.

When a deal is struck, and suddenly one party disappears, I consider that being 'left in the lurch'. Perhaps 'left in the dark' would have been more appropriate. But, when people claim I have an agenda, I really wish they'd read my first post, realize I asked about it, with NO mention of ANY member's name, and go through the replies. Seems the replies were what brought this to make it look worse than it is.

I understand, certainly, if there was an emergency...I'd be the FIRST to offer a public apology. BUT, no communication of a problem (and if $$ were suddenly an issue, well, it happens to all of us at times, and THAT would be understandable). But to strike a deal, give the info I was asked for, told to expect payment, then hearing nothing from said member (though he was able to come here and post after he said 'deal'), it gets frustrating.

Keep in mind, I know this member has been a contributor to many threads, has knowledge, and is a popular member. This is why I ASKED about things. As far as stating the members name in a PM if someone asks, as was stated by a moderator, thats ok...and alot have wanted to know. I do know I would stay away from a member who has done this. I THOUGHT it would be beneficial to others, but apparently, here, noone really cares to hear truths. This is fine with me.

Lastly, Rickles makes me laugh just by looking at him, as you NEVER know what's liable to roll off that sharp tongue he has!

 

Quite the intelligent contribution to a post.

 

I think all that can be squeezed out of the original question has occurred, and now is mainly argumentation. I hope that you get a reply, and that you work it out. Often when a deal hasn't moved beyond the initial agreement, to at least one person passing real value such as the coin or payment, deals fall through. Unfortunately, more often these days. With some, age makes it a problem as some may not be able legally to enter such a deal, and any public action specifically directed to them, might be construed as harassment of a juvenile. I don't know the age of the person involved.

Jim