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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7914169, member: 75937"]How wonderful you were able to acquire such a rarity, [USER=82616]@David Atherton[/USER]! By now, you must have one of the most complete collections of Flavian coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It just so happens that I have a Vesta coin that verified the existence of a rare type!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1366968[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Faustina I, AD 138-140.</font></p><p><font size="3">Roman Æ as, 9.03 g, 24.4 mm, 5 h.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rome, AD 145.</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: DIVA FAVSTINA, veiled and draped bust, right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev: AVGVSTA S C, Vesta veiled, standing left, holding palladium and scepter.</font></p><p><font size="3">Refs: Dinsdale 021525 ([USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER]'s coin); RIC --; BMCRE --; Cohen --; Strack --; RCV --.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>A middle bronze with this Vesta reverse and a veiled bust had been unknown before [USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER] acquired one for his collection. He was unable to attribute it because it was unlisted in RIC. He posted it <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-strange-faustina.339419/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-strange-faustina.339419/">here</a> because its identity was a mystery and wondered if it should be considered an unpublished variant or a mule.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-sr-avgvsta-s-c-vesta-standing-as-veiled-orielensis-png.1342284/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><blockquote><p><font size="3">Middle bronze owned by Orielensis, 9.05 g, 27 mm.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>In <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-strange-faustina.339419/#post-3534919" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-strange-faustina.339419/#post-3534919">reply</a>, I consulted other references (BMCRE4, Cohen, Sear, and Strack) and performed an internet search of specimens from various museum collections at <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.3.ant.1179_as" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.3.ant.1179_as" rel="nofollow">OCRE</a> and those at The Coin Project and Wildwinds. A <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+1179&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+1179&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">search at acsearchinfo</a> yielded no examples with veiled busts, either.</p><p><br /></p><p>The question continued to puzzle Orielensis and he <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/when-grade-condition-doesnt-matter-faustina-dupondius-with-veiled-bust.334230/#post-3990967" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/when-grade-condition-doesnt-matter-faustina-dupondius-with-veiled-bust.334230/#post-3990967">posted again</a> early last year, citing his lack of progress at attributing the coin. I again performed an internet search and noted my friend Paul Dinsdale, ([USER=110988]@paulus_dinius[/USER]) who maintains a very complete database of Antonine coins, made no mention of a veiled bust variant in his catalog. Orielensis and I contacted Paul and he confirmed he had never encountered the coin previously and he added it to his book, citing Orielensis' specimen.</p><p><br /></p><p>Later this year, a second specimen surfaced when it was consigned to AAMC Auction 3 (24 July, 2021) as <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8386689" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8386689" rel="nofollow">lot 219</a>. It had been previously part of the JB collection and "purchased in Toronto, Fall 1999." The auctioneer ([USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER]) noted that he knew "of one other example in a private collection, which is the coin referenced by Dinsdale" (Orielensis' example). I had the good fortune of being the high bidder and acquired the coin for my own collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>My specimen is an obverse die match to Orielensis' but not a reverse die match. This argues against the coin being an accidental mule of the reverse die with an obverse die intended for another issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>To the best of my knowledge, Orielensis and I own the only examples of this coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 7914169, member: 75937"]How wonderful you were able to acquire such a rarity, [USER=82616]@David Atherton[/USER]! By now, you must have one of the most complete collections of Flavian coins. It just so happens that I have a Vesta coin that verified the existence of a rare type! [ATTACH=full]1366968[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Faustina I, AD 138-140. Roman Æ as, 9.03 g, 24.4 mm, 5 h. Rome, AD 145. Obv: DIVA FAVSTINA, veiled and draped bust, right. Rev: AVGVSTA S C, Vesta veiled, standing left, holding palladium and scepter. Refs: Dinsdale 021525 ([USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER]'s coin); RIC --; BMCRE --; Cohen --; Strack --; RCV --.[/SIZE][/INDENT] A middle bronze with this Vesta reverse and a veiled bust had been unknown before [USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER] acquired one for his collection. He was unable to attribute it because it was unlisted in RIC. He posted it [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-strange-faustina.339419/']here[/URL] because its identity was a mystery and wondered if it should be considered an unpublished variant or a mule. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/faustina-sr-avgvsta-s-c-vesta-standing-as-veiled-orielensis-png.1342284/[/IMG] [INDENT][SIZE=3]Middle bronze owned by Orielensis, 9.05 g, 27 mm.[/SIZE][/INDENT] In [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-strange-faustina.339419/#post-3534919']reply[/URL], I consulted other references (BMCRE4, Cohen, Sear, and Strack) and performed an internet search of specimens from various museum collections at [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.3.ant.1179_as']OCRE[/URL] and those at The Coin Project and Wildwinds. A [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+1179&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=']search at acsearchinfo[/URL] yielded no examples with veiled busts, either. The question continued to puzzle Orielensis and he [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/when-grade-condition-doesnt-matter-faustina-dupondius-with-veiled-bust.334230/#post-3990967']posted again[/URL] early last year, citing his lack of progress at attributing the coin. I again performed an internet search and noted my friend Paul Dinsdale, ([USER=110988]@paulus_dinius[/USER]) who maintains a very complete database of Antonine coins, made no mention of a veiled bust variant in his catalog. Orielensis and I contacted Paul and he confirmed he had never encountered the coin previously and he added it to his book, citing Orielensis' specimen. Later this year, a second specimen surfaced when it was consigned to AAMC Auction 3 (24 July, 2021) as [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8386689']lot 219[/URL]. It had been previously part of the JB collection and "purchased in Toronto, Fall 1999." The auctioneer ([USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER]) noted that he knew "of one other example in a private collection, which is the coin referenced by Dinsdale" (Orielensis' example). I had the good fortune of being the high bidder and acquired the coin for my own collection. My specimen is an obverse die match to Orielensis' but not a reverse die match. This argues against the coin being an accidental mule of the reverse die with an obverse die intended for another issue. To the best of my knowledge, Orielensis and I own the only examples of this coin.[/QUOTE]
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