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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrsmat71, post: 1880842, member: 42634&quot;]i&#039;ve always wanted one of these &quot;wire money&quot; coins, so i picked this one up recently for 5 bucks.&nbsp; this coins is minted during the time of ivan the iv (ivan the terrible), russias first tzar..but this coin was issued before he had the title tzar, between 1533-1547.&nbsp; i also believe it is a denga, but i have seen some people refer to them as kopeks?</p><p><br /></p><p>the obverse shows ivan on horseback..i think it&#039;s ivan.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/chrsmat71/media/modern%20coins/102_4565_zpsa7eafdee.jpg.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/chrsmat71/media/modern%20coins/102_4565_zpsa7eafdee.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg513/chrsmat71/modern%20coins/102_4565_zpsa7eafdee.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><br /></p><p>i think the revers read &quot; grand prince ivan&quot;, but most of it is missing.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/chrsmat71/media/modern%20coins/102_4567_zpseac065f5.jpg.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/chrsmat71/media/modern%20coins/102_4567_zpseac065f5.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg513/chrsmat71/modern%20coins/102_4567_zpseac065f5.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>about 10 mm and only weighs about 0.5 g.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>i know they were hammered and that the name &quot;wire money&quot; comes from the minting process, i don&#039;t really get exactly why they were called that. (was the metal in wire like pieces?)&nbsp; if anyone know, i&#039;d love to hear.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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