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Message:: [QUOTE="Finn235, post: 4178822, member: 98035"]It is interesting once you get down into the nitty gritty of what is and isn't "greek". Numismatically, I consider any coin engraved in the Greek style (high artistic merit, thicker flans, Greek language or anepigraphic) to be Greek. For Greece proper, southern Italy, and the Macedon/Thrace/Western Asia Minor this is mostly cut and dry. Here's the classifications I use for my collection of pre-Roman coins around the Mediterranean- Greek (duh)- Celtic- North African (Carthage, Numidia)- Iberian (from the earliest until Roman emperors started appearing on them)- Achaemenid- Achaemenid satrapies (regardless of whether they use Greek, Lycian, Phoenician, or Aramaic)- Independent Arabian (Himyar, Nabataea) Also to the OP question, even though I do have some, Islamic coins without any sort of figural anything just never clicked for me - I can identify the Kalima in most cases, and I can read numerical dates, but that's it. Ditto with the run of the mill Song coins - a few years ago I bought almost 200 of them in a bulk lot but after a few ID sessions of frustration and not knowing any characters besides "Tong", "Yuan" and "Bao" I gave up, picked out the prettiest ones, and sold the rest.[/QUOTE]