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<p>[QUOTE="Brett_in_Sacto, post: 2443919, member: 71510"]I believe you have a short sighted view of the market and limited experience. Sorry, but I'm calling it as I see it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also sometimes wonder after seeing the price trends, if some people say this with the sole intention of shorting the market with fear.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are bullion grade coins out there. Worn out common dates by the millions. We all know this. These tend to ebb and flow with the price of metals. Some end up in collections, a lot end up with stackers.</p><p><br /></p><p>People will always collect historical items - and that is exactly what coins are. Historical items. They tell the story of "us" (and technically in this country - us is U.S. !).</p><p><br /></p><p>Things rise and fall in popularity over a lifetime, and then there are floods to the market for profit motive that saturate it with false hopes of getting rich (Think about Franklin Mint and all the coins from Liberia).</p><p><br /></p><p>Coins to me are about history, just like stamps, books and other collectibles. They teach a lesson about the times, how and why designs came together (or fell apart), and what the external influences were that drove the coins of the era.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you are down on numismatics and see failure and dark times in a collectible hobby - maybe it isn't the hobby for you.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I see is that you are starting a business based on numismatics, and just as an objective recommendation - you shouldn't discount the hobby you are starting a business around. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you are just in it for profit, there are many other ventures that will be more profitable for you and require less dedication.</p><p><br /></p><p>Last, we have had a phenomenon called "da inner-net" that has turned a lot of hobbies on edge.</p><p><br /></p><p>Things that we thought were very rare are no longer as rare, because we can find them across the globe. Some have had harder times adapting than others. </p><p><br /></p><p>This has led to a huge supply glut - and combined with the baby boomers estates, it has compounded and driven prices way down. This is just natural market economics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Values change over time. Yesterday we were in a winery and the tasting steward was obviously proud of her "bling" watch - which was nothing more than a gold plated quartz movement from China (or wherever) but it had MK initials in the dial - thereby signifying Michael Kors or however it's spelled. This - like the Seiko gold plated watches of the 80's will end up on Ebay for a few dollars next decade.</p><p><br /></p><p>However a 1960's mechanical Omega or Rolex will always garner a high price due to craftsmanship, reputation and rarity. And century old pieces will continue to appreciate as collectible time pieces.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Brett_in_Sacto, post: 2443919, member: 71510"]I believe you have a short sighted view of the market and limited experience. Sorry, but I'm calling it as I see it. I also sometimes wonder after seeing the price trends, if some people say this with the sole intention of shorting the market with fear. There are bullion grade coins out there. Worn out common dates by the millions. We all know this. These tend to ebb and flow with the price of metals. Some end up in collections, a lot end up with stackers. People will always collect historical items - and that is exactly what coins are. Historical items. They tell the story of "us" (and technically in this country - us is U.S. !). Things rise and fall in popularity over a lifetime, and then there are floods to the market for profit motive that saturate it with false hopes of getting rich (Think about Franklin Mint and all the coins from Liberia). Coins to me are about history, just like stamps, books and other collectibles. They teach a lesson about the times, how and why designs came together (or fell apart), and what the external influences were that drove the coins of the era. If you are down on numismatics and see failure and dark times in a collectible hobby - maybe it isn't the hobby for you. What I see is that you are starting a business based on numismatics, and just as an objective recommendation - you shouldn't discount the hobby you are starting a business around. If you are just in it for profit, there are many other ventures that will be more profitable for you and require less dedication. Last, we have had a phenomenon called "da inner-net" that has turned a lot of hobbies on edge. Things that we thought were very rare are no longer as rare, because we can find them across the globe. Some have had harder times adapting than others. This has led to a huge supply glut - and combined with the baby boomers estates, it has compounded and driven prices way down. This is just natural market economics. Values change over time. Yesterday we were in a winery and the tasting steward was obviously proud of her "bling" watch - which was nothing more than a gold plated quartz movement from China (or wherever) but it had MK initials in the dial - thereby signifying Michael Kors or however it's spelled. This - like the Seiko gold plated watches of the 80's will end up on Ebay for a few dollars next decade. However a 1960's mechanical Omega or Rolex will always garner a high price due to craftsmanship, reputation and rarity. And century old pieces will continue to appreciate as collectible time pieces.[/QUOTE]
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