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<p>[QUOTE="Bob Evancho, post: 5282830, member: 84595"]My question would be, " Why would a Branch Mint send an already cracked and cracking Die to another Branch Mint"? Take the 1878 VAM 44 or 44A. How long did the die last after cracking? Or the 1878 VAM 9. It is suspected to have failed after producing around 300 coins. Let us look at the 1896-o micro o. Yet PCGS originally graded and authenticated this variety. One wonders how a die from 1899-o micro o could have been used in 1896. One can see the 1900-o or 1902-o micro o's but not the 1896-o micro o. What die pairings logically cannot exist? One wonders if the grading services actually determine authenticity each time by the die characteristics of a coin in any denomination? You have brought up a very interesting question. It is a good reason to buy the book before you buy the coin. I'm sure there are counterfeiters out there trying to figure out how to fool the coin collector. Another aspect would be to trace back the history of the counterfeit coin. When did it first come on the market. Who was it purchased from? Who did that person purchase such a valuable coin from? As the young lady pushing a stroller with a child inside tells the pawn shop, "I got this coin from my grandfather". Or in one of my cases, " we found this box of coins in the house we bought". The 35 coins were all altered from original coins to make into valuable coins such as 1877 Indian head cents made from 1879 Indian cents. They were eventually sent to ICG to be encapsulated "For Educational Purposes". It's important to be a happy reference reader and study die characteristics of the coins you want to collect. One can learn a lot from the many coin experts on Coin Talk.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bob Evancho, post: 5282830, member: 84595"]My question would be, " Why would a Branch Mint send an already cracked and cracking Die to another Branch Mint"? Take the 1878 VAM 44 or 44A. How long did the die last after cracking? Or the 1878 VAM 9. It is suspected to have failed after producing around 300 coins. Let us look at the 1896-o micro o. Yet PCGS originally graded and authenticated this variety. One wonders how a die from 1899-o micro o could have been used in 1896. One can see the 1900-o or 1902-o micro o's but not the 1896-o micro o. What die pairings logically cannot exist? One wonders if the grading services actually determine authenticity each time by the die characteristics of a coin in any denomination? You have brought up a very interesting question. It is a good reason to buy the book before you buy the coin. I'm sure there are counterfeiters out there trying to figure out how to fool the coin collector. Another aspect would be to trace back the history of the counterfeit coin. When did it first come on the market. Who was it purchased from? Who did that person purchase such a valuable coin from? As the young lady pushing a stroller with a child inside tells the pawn shop, "I got this coin from my grandfather". Or in one of my cases, " we found this box of coins in the house we bought". The 35 coins were all altered from original coins to make into valuable coins such as 1877 Indian head cents made from 1879 Indian cents. They were eventually sent to ICG to be encapsulated "For Educational Purposes". It's important to be a happy reference reader and study die characteristics of the coins you want to collect. One can learn a lot from the many coin experts on Coin Talk.[/QUOTE]
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