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<p>[QUOTE="Beefer518, post: 2790398, member: 87737"]No.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now you're going to tell me how I am wrong, and that the salesman has a moral/legal/whatever type of obligation to disclose everything they know about the car, which they don't.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I agree with jwitten that your analogy is not a good one, but let's do apples to apples, using an orange.</p><p><br /></p><p>So let's use a coin with damage that is evident in the photograph, let's use the earlier posted SLQ with the scratches. In the listing, the scratches weren't mentioned, but we all agree that the scratches are visible in the seller's listing. So isn't it really the buyer's job to efficiently and effectively evaluate the coin for themselves, and then make their buying decision based on their conclusions of what was presented to them?</p><p><br /></p><p>So now let's take your flooded car example, and convert the apple to orange comparison to an apple to apple comparison. In other words, the seller may not tell you about the flooding, but everything is there to show you it has been flooded. Maybe when you open the door, water pours out and rainbow trout gleeful exit the vehicle. Or maybe there is a waterline, or mudline half way up the entire interior. The seller is mute, can't write, and doesn't know sign langue, or understand your language, so you have no way of asking a question. Did he hide the fact that the car was flooded? Did he prevent you from seeing the evidence that the car was flooded? I think the answer is no to both.</p><p><br /></p><p>So we now have a coin, and we have a car, that have both clearly shown their best and worst. If you buy the coin, and aren't happy with it, or you buy the car and aren't happy with it, who is to blame? Nobody but you. That's actually more of buyer's remorse, then of deceptive sales practices. </p><p><br /></p><p>And I believe that the initial purpose of this thread was to help everyone in being a more educated buyer when buying not in hand coins from anyone, to whit I also believe the thread is accomplishing nicely.</p><p><br /></p><p>Caveat emptor. It applies to everything you buy, including coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, thanks to the OP for this helpful and educational thread![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Beefer518, post: 2790398, member: 87737"]No. Now you're going to tell me how I am wrong, and that the salesman has a moral/legal/whatever type of obligation to disclose everything they know about the car, which they don't. Now, I agree with jwitten that your analogy is not a good one, but let's do apples to apples, using an orange. So let's use a coin with damage that is evident in the photograph, let's use the earlier posted SLQ with the scratches. In the listing, the scratches weren't mentioned, but we all agree that the scratches are visible in the seller's listing. So isn't it really the buyer's job to efficiently and effectively evaluate the coin for themselves, and then make their buying decision based on their conclusions of what was presented to them? So now let's take your flooded car example, and convert the apple to orange comparison to an apple to apple comparison. In other words, the seller may not tell you about the flooding, but everything is there to show you it has been flooded. Maybe when you open the door, water pours out and rainbow trout gleeful exit the vehicle. Or maybe there is a waterline, or mudline half way up the entire interior. The seller is mute, can't write, and doesn't know sign langue, or understand your language, so you have no way of asking a question. Did he hide the fact that the car was flooded? Did he prevent you from seeing the evidence that the car was flooded? I think the answer is no to both. So we now have a coin, and we have a car, that have both clearly shown their best and worst. If you buy the coin, and aren't happy with it, or you buy the car and aren't happy with it, who is to blame? Nobody but you. That's actually more of buyer's remorse, then of deceptive sales practices. And I believe that the initial purpose of this thread was to help everyone in being a more educated buyer when buying not in hand coins from anyone, to whit I also believe the thread is accomplishing nicely. Caveat emptor. It applies to everything you buy, including coins. Again, thanks to the OP for this helpful and educational thread![/QUOTE]
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