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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;kirispupis, post: 8347203, member: 118780&quot;]First, I&#039;d like to say I appreciate the insight for you [USER=128351]@GinoLR[/USER] and [USER=110226]@robinjojo[/USER]. I&#039;ve learned a lot about imitation owls from this discussion.</p><p><br /></p><p>In fact, I bit the bullet this morning and picked up two more imitations at the latest CNG auction.</p><ul> <li>One from Gaza. It&#039;s a bit off center and the distinctive &#039;m&#039; is mostly worn off, but I felt I would have paid a lot more for such a coin. This one will be a key piece in my &quot;Alexander III&quot; story, since Alexander was wounded in the ~2 month siege of Gaza, who was led by Batis.</li> <li>The second was an impulse buy from Egypt. Dated to the end of the 5th to the mid 4th century. I plan to attribute this to Nektanebo II. Granted, it&#039;s impossible to know if he actually minted it (the odds are before him), but at the minimum he minted coins that looked the same. Given that I can&#039;t afford his gold coins and the bronze issues have been show definitely to have nothing to do with him, I was glad to pick it up. Nektanebo II, of course, is famous for <i>not</i> being Alexander&#039;s father. Nevertheless, he assumed that role in the <i>Alexander Romance</i> and millions likely grew up believing the fallacy.</li> </ul><p>In terms of this coin, I took a look at the issues from Qataban and I&#039;m having difficulty seeing it. As you know, most of those coins have a &#039;trident&#039; that this one lacks. The style on both sides is also quite different.</p><p><br /></p><p>In fact, when I went through tons of imitations on acsearch, I realized why Savoca assigned it to Edom. The reverse, other than being reversed, is almost exactly the same. Lihyan would be next in similarity.</p><p><br /></p><p>The obverse is the real head-scratcher. It matches <i>nothing</i>. For that reason, I agree with you that this was likely minted by some tribe. I doubt it was under authority from a king. What is more intriguing to me is that the reverse is a near copy while the obverse is something new. Perhaps there were separate die makers (which was common)? Then why did both of them reverse their designs? </p><p><br /></p><p>Based on the similarities, it <i>seems</i> like this tribe may have been from Edom or not far from it. That being said, I still don&#039;t believe an Edom attribution is correct.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m still tempted to keep the attribution of Philistia, since that&#039;s a generic catch all. I could also widen it to &quot;Philistia or Arabia&quot; to be more certain. If I really wanted to be sure, I could just say &quot;somewhere with sand.&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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