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<p>[QUOTE="superc, post: 1743195, member: 44079"]Family lore (I wasn't there yet) had both sets of my grandparents losing a few gold coins stored in bank boxes and elsewhere when Roosevelt did his thing. So yes, they could do it again. </p><p>One error jumps out at me. What the government will pay for ASEs and similar coins is not the bullion value (which the govt. has the authority to reset), but the face value of the coin. So for your 2012 MS70 proof ASE, you will get $1. No more. The same for your $5 gold piece. Etc. Proof state silver coin? What was the face value? That is what they will pay you.</p><p>Is it probable? Uh mmm, maybe 60/40 or 30/70. Especially for the silver. We squandered a lot in the past decade. Another not thought out war, or ill funded social program could really increase our debt levels. Possibly to the extent that foreign nations with better financing would not accept our bonds or extend us credit. Likewise, silver is used in ways that don't lend themselves to cheap recycling. So the question becomes is there enough silver sitting in private hands to justify the political ire of an eminent domain confiscation? Clearly Roosevelt thought there was enough gold, even though well less than he expected was recovered. I think there would be a warning sign it was coming. I think the first warning sign would be the US Mint suddenly halting the sale of ASEs and AGEs. Maybe about 5 or 6 months before the new confiscation order emerges. Last time folks who could moved their gold outside the US. In the time of Nixon that no longer became safe from seizure. I wish I had asked my parents more about the one or two Gold pieces their parents were allowed to keep. I know that gold went underground, but it still had some private trades. I'd like to learn how that was done.</p><p>The knowledge may come in handy someday.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="superc, post: 1743195, member: 44079"]Family lore (I wasn't there yet) had both sets of my grandparents losing a few gold coins stored in bank boxes and elsewhere when Roosevelt did his thing. So yes, they could do it again. One error jumps out at me. What the government will pay for ASEs and similar coins is not the bullion value (which the govt. has the authority to reset), but the face value of the coin. So for your 2012 MS70 proof ASE, you will get $1. No more. The same for your $5 gold piece. Etc. Proof state silver coin? What was the face value? That is what they will pay you. Is it probable? Uh mmm, maybe 60/40 or 30/70. Especially for the silver. We squandered a lot in the past decade. Another not thought out war, or ill funded social program could really increase our debt levels. Possibly to the extent that foreign nations with better financing would not accept our bonds or extend us credit. Likewise, silver is used in ways that don't lend themselves to cheap recycling. So the question becomes is there enough silver sitting in private hands to justify the political ire of an eminent domain confiscation? Clearly Roosevelt thought there was enough gold, even though well less than he expected was recovered. I think there would be a warning sign it was coming. I think the first warning sign would be the US Mint suddenly halting the sale of ASEs and AGEs. Maybe about 5 or 6 months before the new confiscation order emerges. Last time folks who could moved their gold outside the US. In the time of Nixon that no longer became safe from seizure. I wish I had asked my parents more about the one or two Gold pieces their parents were allowed to keep. I know that gold went underground, but it still had some private trades. I'd like to learn how that was done. The knowledge may come in handy someday.[/QUOTE]
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