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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2057911, member: 112"]Did ya now ? Then perhaps you need to learn how to read. Or at the least, read more carefully.</p><p><br /></p><p>The link provided by Blissskr for the new text is just fine. But the second link, and I'm not faulting him as it was an honest mistake, for the original text of the law, that one's not quite accurate. And a guy like you, who supposedly pays so much attention to detail, maybe should have noticed that <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The text of new law states :</p><p><br /></p><p><i>SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.</i></p><p><i> This Act may be cited as the ``Collectible Coin Protection Act''.</i></p><p><i>SEC. 2. PROVISION OF ASSISTANCE OR SUPPORT.</i></p><p><i>The Hobby Protection Act (<u>15 U.S.C. 2101</u> et seq.) is amended-- ...........</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>The part you want to pay attention to there is what I underlined - that refers to Title 15 section 2101 of the US Code. The second link that Blissskr provided refers to TITLE 16--COMMERCIAL PRACTICES sections 304.1 through sections 301.6. Which is not even the law being amended.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a link to the law that IS being amended - <a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title15/html/USCODE-2009-title15-chap48.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title15/html/USCODE-2009-title15-chap48.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title15/html/USCODE-2009-title15-chap48.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The new laws at Blissskr's link - <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/2754/text" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/2754/text" rel="nofollow">https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/2754/text</a> - states :</p><p><br /></p><p><i>(A) in subsection (b), by inserting ``, or the sale in </i></p><p><i>commerce'' after ``distribution in commerce'';</i></p><p><br /></p><p>In the original law subsection b reads as follows -</p><p><br /></p><p><i>(b) Coins and other numismatic items</i></p><p><i>The manufacture in the United States, or the importation into the United States, for introduction into or distribution in commerce of any imitation numismatic item which is not plainly and permanently marked “copy”, is unlawful and is an unfair or deceptive act or practice in commerce under the Federal Trade Commission Act [15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.].</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>It is now directed to read as follows -</p><p><br /></p><p><i>(b) Coins and other numismatic items</i></p><p><i>The manufacture in the United States, or the importation into the United States, for introduction into or distribution in commerce, <i><i><b>or the sale in </b><i><i><b>commerce,</b>of any imitation numismatic item which is not plainly and permanently marked “copy”, is unlawful and is an unfair or deceptive act or practice in commerce under the Federal Trade Commission Act [15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.]</i></i></i></i></i></p><p><i><i><br /></i></i></p><p>The phrase that the new law dictates be inserted - has been inserted.</p><p><br /></p><p>So as I said -</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Two completely different things have now become illegal !</p><p><br /></p><p>Thing #1 -</p><p><br /></p><p><i>(A) in subsection (b), by inserting ``, or the sale in </i></p><p><i> commerce'' after ``distribution in commerce'';</i></p><p><br /></p><p>And thing #2 -</p><p><br /></p><p><i> (B) by redesignating subsection (d) as subsection (e) and </i></p><p><i> inserting after subsection (c) the following:</i></p><p><i> ``(d) Provision of Assistance or Support.--It shall be a violation </i></p><p><i>of subsection (a) or (b) for a person to provide substantial assistance </i></p><p><i>or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller if that person </i></p><p><i>knows or should have known that the manufacturer, importer, or seller </i></p><p><i>is engaged in any act or practice that violates subsection (a) or </i></p><p><i>(b).''; and</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>You see, that's what those letters at the beginning - A & B - mean. A is one new thing that becomes illegal, and B is another new thing that becomes illegal.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, item B, which is what you referred to, is absolutely there. But I never denied that it was. But apparently you were completely ignoring item A. So either you can't read, or you need to learn to read more closely.</p><p><br /></p><p>But there is one other possibility - perhaps you just want to try and argue or discredit me, no matter what it is I happen to say. Nahhh, that couldn't be so <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Boy that water taste good, doesn't it ! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2057911, member: 112"]Did ya now ? Then perhaps you need to learn how to read. Or at the least, read more carefully. The link provided by Blissskr for the new text is just fine. But the second link, and I'm not faulting him as it was an honest mistake, for the original text of the law, that one's not quite accurate. And a guy like you, who supposedly pays so much attention to detail, maybe should have noticed that ;) The text of new law states : [I]SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ``Collectible Coin Protection Act''. SEC. 2. PROVISION OF ASSISTANCE OR SUPPORT. The Hobby Protection Act ([U]15 U.S.C. 2101[/U] et seq.) is amended-- ........... [/I] The part you want to pay attention to there is what I underlined - that refers to Title 15 section 2101 of the US Code. The second link that Blissskr provided refers to TITLE 16--COMMERCIAL PRACTICES sections 304.1 through sections 301.6. Which is not even the law being amended. Here is a link to the law that IS being amended - [url]http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title15/html/USCODE-2009-title15-chap48.htm[/url] The new laws at Blissskr's link - [url]https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/2754/text[/url] - states : [I](A) in subsection (b), by inserting ``, or the sale in commerce'' after ``distribution in commerce'';[/I] In the original law subsection b reads as follows - [I](b) Coins and other numismatic items The manufacture in the United States, or the importation into the United States, for introduction into or distribution in commerce of any imitation numismatic item which is not plainly and permanently marked “copy”, is unlawful and is an unfair or deceptive act or practice in commerce under the Federal Trade Commission Act [15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.]. [/I] It is now directed to read as follows - [I](b) Coins and other numismatic items The manufacture in the United States, or the importation into the United States, for introduction into or distribution in commerce, [I][I][B]or the sale in [/B][I][I][B]commerce,[/B]of any imitation numismatic item which is not plainly and permanently marked “copy”, is unlawful and is an unfair or deceptive act or practice in commerce under the Federal Trade Commission Act [15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.][/I][/I][/I] [/I][/I] The phrase that the new law dictates be inserted - has been inserted. So as I said - Two completely different things have now become illegal ! Thing #1 - [I](A) in subsection (b), by inserting ``, or the sale in commerce'' after ``distribution in commerce'';[/I] And thing #2 - [I] (B) by redesignating subsection (d) as subsection (e) and inserting after subsection (c) the following: ``(d) Provision of Assistance or Support.--It shall be a violation of subsection (a) or (b) for a person to provide substantial assistance or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller if that person knows or should have known that the manufacturer, importer, or seller is engaged in any act or practice that violates subsection (a) or (b).''; and [/I] You see, that's what those letters at the beginning - A & B - mean. A is one new thing that becomes illegal, and B is another new thing that becomes illegal. Yes, item B, which is what you referred to, is absolutely there. But I never denied that it was. But apparently you were completely ignoring item A. So either you can't read, or you need to learn to read more closely. But there is one other possibility - perhaps you just want to try and argue or discredit me, no matter what it is I happen to say. Nahhh, that couldn't be so :rolleyes: Boy that water taste good, doesn't it ! :)[/QUOTE]
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