There are so many little things to find others (myself included) miss, from the decoration on the horse rump, the lettering, the diadem type (it seems like there's even a variety or pearl-diademed bust) or fancy boots (Doug has one). I did send Dane a picture of the coin, but yes she is quite bust at the moment to talk it seems. Another collector of FH on forvm we know Said he's never seen a spiral shield before, so it would be exciting to see if someone finds another. I'd be curious to know what Tory thought but does he even have interest in these any more?
With regards to variety, I've always wanted to find (and own) a die match for one my coins. Once I found a match for an Alexandrian FH in a personal collection, not for sale though. It shows just how many varieties there are I think.
Excellent score, Dr Geki! It really does take a specialist in the field to catch these things, and you guys always impress me when you do so.
I have looked through all mine and cannot find anything like as elaborate. This one has a waved edge surrounding the dots rather then just the ring of dots This one has a pattern of large dots in a straight line through the middle. Circles with dots in the middle.... Martin
Just like VAMs of the Morgan Dollars, we could conceive some sort of VAFH for that interesting ancient series. BTW.. I noticed that the following coin has 3 caps on the reverse, instead of 2 ( one cap for each of the 2 knights ). Am I seeing right ?
Oh MAN! @randygeki ! I really think that is a COOL find with that Spiral Shield!!! Very unique. Perhaps a bored or creative Celator!? I went back and checked mine out. Pretty boring, simple shapes, and mine are too circulated to have good detail. HOWEVER, I went back and checked one of mine again... I am convinced the Romans were far ahead of their time. They IDENTIFIED a GALAXY: ...look really hard... This shield has the boss in the center with two arms SPIRALING out from the center! Perhaps they saw Galaxy NGC1365... Perhaps Edwin Hubble was not the first to classify Galaxies... All jokes! Just having fun, as you REALLY got me interested in checking out my shield design. Looking at all the Fallen Horsemen designs, YOUR Shield is REALLY unique and COOL!!! CONGRATS finding it!!!
@R.G. Yes.. I was talking about the field mark on the left field. What is that over there, if not a cap ?
I see. That's plausible, depending on the engraver's mood or way of configuring that letter. I'm rather convinced. Thank you.
A resource for late roman shield patterns is the notitia dignitatum, which shows the shield patterns by military unit in the late 4th and early fifth centuries. http://lukeuedasarson.com/NotitiaPatterns.html Here's an example: Do you see any spirals in there? Cool thread, by the way!
This early Nicomedia seems to show a buckler rather than a shield. Constantius II - AE2 Obv:- D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev:- FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier to left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield on ground at right. Horseman wears a Phrygian cap and falls forward clutching horse's neck Minted in Nicomedia (* | _ // SMNA). A.D. 348-351 References:- RIC VIII Nicomedia 63 (Rated R). 5.89 gms. 22.76 mm. 0 degrees
It is about the one-year anniversary of this thread, so I thought I would resurrect it for a pretty special FH. I avoid calling attention to single coins at auction as per etiquette protocols, but coins in retail dealer stock, I assume, are not inappropriate to reference. If I’m wrong in this assumption here, please correct me. I saw this remarkable fallen horseman in the new stock of VCoins dealer Mike Vosper. Not only is it in extremely fine condition, it has that extremely rare Chi-Rho in the midst of the violence. At over $400, it is too rich for my blood. But the combination of rarity and high-quality means that I believe it is actually one pricey LRB whose premium is worth it.
It's a wonderful coin. Based on what I've seen them go for in the past, it's a good price. I don't think these are extremely rare but also not common as RIC suggests. Maybe just scarce? I think the chi-rho makes this a more popular coin and influences the price more than rarity. I have a very poor example of Constantius II ric 195.