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<p>[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 6654206, member: 110226"]Here's a coin that I thought I still owned, but could not locate. Eventually it was found in a bag with a bunch of world coins, great organization! </p><p><br /></p><p>This coin, which as bronze disease and is being treated, is interesting not in its beauty of form and execution - its chances of appearing on the cover of Roma's auction catalog is on the minus side of nil - but rather to the sizeable area on Maximinus's cheek. The area seems to have been gouged out. So, the question is, was this defacement due to a dislike of Maximinus, who did not in his time have access to Dale Carnegie's <i>How to Win Friends and Influence People</i>? Or, is this gouged out area due to a clumsy effort to remove deposits or corrosion? Or, could this be a large flaw that the coin had as it left the mint? I think this possibility unlikely.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin also has an area on the reverse where some metal is missing, a possible lamination?</p><p><br /></p><p>I was able to find this interesting information online regarding the damnatio memoriae of Maximinus Thrax, and Nero as well:</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Was damnatio memoriae ever used before a ruler had fallen as a means of criticising their rule? </b></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>It’s tempting to imagine defaced coins being released into circulation by aggrieved citizens…</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>This happened especially when damnatio was passed on the current emperor by the Senate in Rome while he was with the army in the provinces, or by usurpers in the provinces who revolted against the current emperor in Rome. The defacement of imperial images and the erasure of the imperial name were used to delegitimize emperors who were still alive, such as Nero (AD 54-68), who was declared a public enemy while still in Rome and the armies in Gaul and Spain were in revolt, and as Maximinus Thrax (AD 235-238), whose damnatio was passed in Rome while he was fighting the German tribes on the Rhine border.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>Here's a link to the source:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/ancient/damnatio-memoriae-how-the-romans-erased-the-memory-of-their-fallen-emperors/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/ancient/damnatio-memoriae-how-the-romans-erased-the-memory-of-their-fallen-emperors/" rel="nofollow">https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/ancient/damnatio-memoriae-how-the-romans-erased-the-memory-of-their-fallen-emperors/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>So, there's the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Maximinus Thrax 235-236 AD</p><p>AE sestertius</p><p>Rome</p><p>Obverse: IMP MAXIMINVS PIVS AVG Laureate, draped bust right.</p><p>Reverse: PROVIDENTIA AVG Providentia standing left, holding cornucopiae and pointing to globe at feet with wand; S-C in fields.</p><p>RIC: 61</p><p><br /></p><p>16.2 grams</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1268882[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So, what do you think? Does anyone have other examples?</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 6654206, member: 110226"]Here's a coin that I thought I still owned, but could not locate. Eventually it was found in a bag with a bunch of world coins, great organization! This coin, which as bronze disease and is being treated, is interesting not in its beauty of form and execution - its chances of appearing on the cover of Roma's auction catalog is on the minus side of nil - but rather to the sizeable area on Maximinus's cheek. The area seems to have been gouged out. So, the question is, was this defacement due to a dislike of Maximinus, who did not in his time have access to Dale Carnegie's [I]How to Win Friends and Influence People[/I]? Or, is this gouged out area due to a clumsy effort to remove deposits or corrosion? Or, could this be a large flaw that the coin had as it left the mint? I think this possibility unlikely. The coin also has an area on the reverse where some metal is missing, a possible lamination? I was able to find this interesting information online regarding the damnatio memoriae of Maximinus Thrax, and Nero as well: [I][B]Was damnatio memoriae ever used before a ruler had fallen as a means of criticising their rule? [/B] It’s tempting to imagine defaced coins being released into circulation by aggrieved citizens… This happened especially when damnatio was passed on the current emperor by the Senate in Rome while he was with the army in the provinces, or by usurpers in the provinces who revolted against the current emperor in Rome. The defacement of imperial images and the erasure of the imperial name were used to delegitimize emperors who were still alive, such as Nero (AD 54-68), who was declared a public enemy while still in Rome and the armies in Gaul and Spain were in revolt, and as Maximinus Thrax (AD 235-238), whose damnatio was passed in Rome while he was fighting the German tribes on the Rhine border. [/I] Here's a link to the source: [URL]https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/ancient/damnatio-memoriae-how-the-romans-erased-the-memory-of-their-fallen-emperors/[/URL] So, there's the coin. Maximinus Thrax 235-236 AD AE sestertius Rome Obverse: IMP MAXIMINVS PIVS AVG Laureate, draped bust right. Reverse: PROVIDENTIA AVG Providentia standing left, holding cornucopiae and pointing to globe at feet with wand; S-C in fields. RIC: 61 16.2 grams [ATTACH=full]1268882[/ATTACH] So, what do you think? Does anyone have other examples? Thanks[/QUOTE]
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