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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 5597273, member: 56653"]Great in-depth look at Renard "le felon de Bouvines" -- but the type was introduced by Louis VII in the 1140s, in preparation for the Second Crusade rather than Philippe Augustus. What Philippe did was to try a standardization of the coinages used in northern France, not just the royal types but the coinages of his allies, vassals and trade partners. Since the type was "revived" around 1191 at Paris, Arras and Montreuil-sur-Mer, the other parisii likely followed soon after and were in use at least during the reign of Philippe (1223), but very likely as late as the 1240s as it's obvious from hoard finds, at least from tresor de Gisors. What is interesting is that it seems that although the royal parisis was struck on multiple occasions after 1191, the feudal coinage was rather small scale -- which is shown in the heavy wear that these feudal coins were subjected to, while the royal coins in comparison are frequently found in better condition and with far less wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is what intense wear looks like from tresor de Gisors -- coins minted in the 1190s but stuck in circulation until at least 1244:</p><p><br /></p><p>Guillaume Talvas, Count of Ponthieu (1191-1221)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1241907[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Robert II de Dreux, Count of Dreux (1184-1218)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1241908[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 5597273, member: 56653"]Great in-depth look at Renard "le felon de Bouvines" -- but the type was introduced by Louis VII in the 1140s, in preparation for the Second Crusade rather than Philippe Augustus. What Philippe did was to try a standardization of the coinages used in northern France, not just the royal types but the coinages of his allies, vassals and trade partners. Since the type was "revived" around 1191 at Paris, Arras and Montreuil-sur-Mer, the other parisii likely followed soon after and were in use at least during the reign of Philippe (1223), but very likely as late as the 1240s as it's obvious from hoard finds, at least from tresor de Gisors. What is interesting is that it seems that although the royal parisis was struck on multiple occasions after 1191, the feudal coinage was rather small scale -- which is shown in the heavy wear that these feudal coins were subjected to, while the royal coins in comparison are frequently found in better condition and with far less wear. This is what intense wear looks like from tresor de Gisors -- coins minted in the 1190s but stuck in circulation until at least 1244: Guillaume Talvas, Count of Ponthieu (1191-1221) [ATTACH=full]1241907[/ATTACH] Robert II de Dreux, Count of Dreux (1184-1218) [ATTACH=full]1241908[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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