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<p>[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 7924766, member: 77413"]I am not fighting against [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] ‘s conclusion that these are scratches, but I am still confused in my own mind.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also think the bright lines looked raised, and said so. But that conclusion is in direct contradiction to their brightness, as you say.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some of the bright lines are also crossed by other smears. And this section is crossed by a gouge that looks the way I expect - there is evidence of metal displacement. I put a red line under the gouge I am talking about.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1369200[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems easier to obliterate a raised line than an incuse scratch, to me. But either way this gouge is newer than the bright lines. I have trouble fitting this into a single consistent theory.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another point I raised was that the scratches could be on the die. But I don’t see how that could work out. I suggested a worker was trying to fix something with a sharp tool and strayed into the fields - repeatedly. But, looking at the sharp boundary next to the device, you have to be using a raised device as a guide. You just cannot be that consistent working freehand next to a void in the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1369215[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So this is the evidence that makes me finally lean towards scratches on the coin, and further, that it was probably done to remove the corrosion that is still visible in that area.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am durned puzzled, though, about</p><ul> <li>how the scratches are so much brighter than a gouge that crosses right through them,</li> <li>how the scratches have shadows if they are incuse, and</li> <li>how the gouge and another, fainter, mark appear to be older than the scratches, yet cut right through them.</li> </ul><p>I am not asking this to be contentious. I am actually confused and I hope someone can pull it all together for me. That would be a valued learning experience.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, I have also rotated the photo to move the light source to the top right. It just feels more natural to me.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1369224[/ATTACH]</p><p>For reference, look at the lighting on the die crack. It runs almost directly at the light source. But you can see that it picks up some light on the right, and has shadows on the left, showing that it is raised above the surface and casting a shadow to the left.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 7924766, member: 77413"]I am not fighting against [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] ‘s conclusion that these are scratches, but I am still confused in my own mind. I also think the bright lines looked raised, and said so. But that conclusion is in direct contradiction to their brightness, as you say. Some of the bright lines are also crossed by other smears. And this section is crossed by a gouge that looks the way I expect - there is evidence of metal displacement. I put a red line under the gouge I am talking about. [ATTACH=full]1369200[/ATTACH] It seems easier to obliterate a raised line than an incuse scratch, to me. But either way this gouge is newer than the bright lines. I have trouble fitting this into a single consistent theory. Another point I raised was that the scratches could be on the die. But I don’t see how that could work out. I suggested a worker was trying to fix something with a sharp tool and strayed into the fields - repeatedly. But, looking at the sharp boundary next to the device, you have to be using a raised device as a guide. You just cannot be that consistent working freehand next to a void in the die. [ATTACH=full]1369215[/ATTACH] So this is the evidence that makes me finally lean towards scratches on the coin, and further, that it was probably done to remove the corrosion that is still visible in that area. I am durned puzzled, though, about [LIST] [*]how the scratches are so much brighter than a gouge that crosses right through them, [*]how the scratches have shadows if they are incuse, and [*]how the gouge and another, fainter, mark appear to be older than the scratches, yet cut right through them. [/LIST] I am not asking this to be contentious. I am actually confused and I hope someone can pull it all together for me. That would be a valued learning experience. Finally, I have also rotated the photo to move the light source to the top right. It just feels more natural to me. [ATTACH=full]1369224[/ATTACH] For reference, look at the lighting on the die crack. It runs almost directly at the light source. But you can see that it picks up some light on the right, and has shadows on the left, showing that it is raised above the surface and casting a shadow to the left.[/QUOTE]
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