A Question of Ethics - Holes In The Dansco

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Randy Abercrombie, Mar 24, 2023.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Empty holes in my Dansco make me nuts, but I also refuse to crack coins out of the slabs to fill those holes. If I were to buy some of the Alibabba copies to plug those holes with, am I giving fuel to the enemy? The thought of supporting the Chinese manufacturers that have sullied our hobby is repulsive to me.... But I gotta plug those holes.
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Too Funny, LOL! That's all I'm saying. :shame::hilarious:
     
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  4. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    A hole is just a hole until it is an unethical hole, then it becomes a whole other problem hole.
     
  5. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member

    I think if they are clearly marked as copies, yes. If not, then no.
     
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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    In my experience, they are not marked.
     
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  7. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Empty album holes drive me nuts too. But fake coins drive me even nuttier.
     
  8. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member

    Then I'd be very apprehensive in filling them. Too many times the general public is duped when it comes to these counterfeits, heck even some collectors are because the fakes are getting so good. Unless we can somehow permanently mark the fake, it's a no go for me. That being said, I don't complete albums or sets, so I don't have that urge. I think as stewards of the hobby anti-counterfeiting is all of our responsibility. This would include not purchasing unmarked copies of coins. I think there's a middle ground, but I'm not sure what it would be. I do own two fakes, both easily identifiable as such by weight alone...I've been torn on what to do with them myself. I think they could be used as a learning tool, but even though I have them marked in an envelope as fakes, I can't be sure the coins and that information would stay together.
     
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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I use other items like in my ihc 77 I use a nice love token to fill holes..and so on for others
    The GS thin mints fit perfectly in a Morgan dansco..plus. you got a snack and...the wife and kids never think to look there for a cookie....;)

    I do it all for the cookie..I do!
     
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  10. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    I also have been tempted to break a coin out of its slab, but never have. I can't ever see me buyinga fake coin unless it says so. But a fake being tagged as fake by the producer is getting to be rare itself.
     
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  11. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Being a relative newbie, I don't have many slabbed coins. The only set that I have been working on is the IHC. My father had already collected most of them, although he didn't put them in a book. Since I got them, I finished them and had fun doing it. As many of you that are collecting the IHCs, I'm sure that the 1877 is not filled in yet. I'm not fanatical enough to spend the kind of money that I would have to for a decent (or not decent) 1877 IHC. Putting a counterfeit never entered my mind until I read the many entries in Cointalk about the frustration about the cost of the 1877 IHC or even a counterfeit IHC. Once you start entering counterfeit coins in your collection, the integrity of the collection is suspect.
    I feel for your frustration. Stay true to your hobby and collection.
     
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  12. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Don't support.
    Take a picture of your coin and fill the hole.
     
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I have busted out over 50 slabs and counting over the last year.... and love the coins in the albums...never cared for slabs...or showering in a rain coat. ;)
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Empty holes? Spackle and some paint Randy. Stay the devil away from the unmentionable Chinese.
     
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  15. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I've never tried this, and it may not work effectively, but the idea just occurred to me so I'm passing it along.

    You could buy 2 identical fakes cheaply enough I assume, grind opposite faces off of each, and put them back-to-back in your album. When somebody removes them in the future, they'll discover they don't have a marketable coin. You could even trap a small note between the halves, if you felt that necessary.
     
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  16. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Supporting the counterfeit coin economy isn't right, in any instance.
    There are better alternatives.
     
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  17. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I appreciate everybody's input. I am deleting this quick link I had saved to the phony coin site.... I think I may use @Paddy54 plan and plug the holes with varieties or something else I may find in the deep dark recesses of my coin safe. Though @green18 idea ain't bad. I know how to use some spackle now.... The first home I sold had more spackle and painters caulk than lumber!
     
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  18. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    One option is to empty all of the holes and get all of the coins in slabs. Probably not a useful suggestion, but it would solve the stated problem by making everything consistent! ;)

    On a more practical note, you could print out something like this (of the appropriate type), stick it to a correctly-sized piece of cardboard or other coin, and use that to fill the hole.

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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    No way. Your to good for that.
     
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  20. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Buy details/ damaged to fill holes with... Cleaned coins wouldn't be a bad idea either. You might live long enough for some to regain patina and look nice again depending on the coin.
     
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  21. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Well... We are talking about the last three years of the three cent nickel series. The business strikes are rare as hens teeth and the only conceivable way a working man can fill those holes is with the corresponding proofs, and they can only be found is slabbed.
     
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