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And what is the significance of that fact?

 

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I confirm, my feeling is that this coin is genuine, but I'm always doubtful...

 

Generally, when some metal is missing (this is the case with the Lanz ex.), you can imagine some metal is obstructing the die.
If some metal had been in excedent, probably the die would have been partially broken.

 

Imagine if you will a low budget inventor / scientist who is seeking to produce a commercial grade time machine. His working model can carry only a few ounces and he wants to raise money. Perhaps the link carries voices through the ages. If he were to send his model to the Oracle of Delphi he could set up a swap. Send me one pristine silver or gold coin and ask me one important historical question. When he developes a reputation for 100% accuracy the rich and famous will flock in and his fund raising explodes. Convert the offerings to cash and proceed with developing the time machine. When it can carry cargo the study of history will be self-funding shipping rarities from one time to another. Thus endeth the speculations.

 

This has been a very interesting and informative thread. And I don't even collect ancients!

 

I did it here a little scientific study of my other coins from the collection of this esteemed Margaretha Ley. There, too, some coins most likely lay for the past 2300-1900 years in a sealed safe or container, where there was no air access. Moreover, they got there immediately after their manufacture.


https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=36242

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4954162

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=94986

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=758542



But I especially like this museum masterpiece of human history:


https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2836580

by the way, and here is a copy of this coin in silver:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=718494

Although the gold (Mithradates IV Philopator. Circa 169-150 BC. AV Stater ) ones there were completely different:


https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2661471

 

One wonders who was Ms. Ley's source for all of these perfect coins, and if she had a numismatic advisor for her purchases or relied upon her own expertise. (The fact that she was known for other things, of course, doesn't mean that she wasn't an amateur expert on ancient coins. I hope you don't assume she lacked expertise just because she was a woman!)

 

Of course not. There are many wonderful women professionals in history and archeology. But this auntie is also a wonderful professional in fashion and clothes with perfume. But not in coins.

By the way, this masterpiece coin seems to be in only one copy, it is not possible to compare with other similar ones.Coming up with fantastic coins and selling them as a unique and unique specimen is completely safe and very profitable.
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2661471


KINGS of PONTOS. Mithradates IV Philopator. Circa 169-150 BC. AV Stater (19mm, 8.50 g, 12h). Amisos or Sinope mint. Head right, wearing laurel wreath / AΣIΛEΩΣ MIΘPAΔATOY, Hera standing facing, leaning on long scepter held in her right hand; star within crescent to left, [two monograms to right]. Callataÿ, First , dies O1/R1, a = SNG von Aulock 4 = Mattingly pl. 56, 3 = Callataÿ pl. 50, R = Alram 23 = G. Kleiner, “Pontische Reichsmünzen” in IstMitt 6 (1955), pl. 2, 12 (this coin); HGC 7, 325 (this coin illustrated). Near VF, marks and scuffs. Unique.
From the collection of Dr. Lawrence A. Adams. Ex Sincona 10 (27 May 2013), lot 108; James & Sneja Velkov Collection (Vinchon, 24 November 1994), lot 52; Hans von Aulock Collection, 4.

 

This is all from memory, but C. S. Lewis is supposed to have said at some point that (at least in the British Isles) the main difference between commoners and the aristocracy was the aristocracy knew who their ancestors were.
(Again from memory, Lewis, Anglo-Irish by birth, was descended from the Anglo-Norman Warenne earls of Surrey, giving him easy descent from Charlemagne.)
Regarding Donna M.'s observations, citing the esteemed online genealogist Charles Cawley (Medieval Lands website), one possible line of descent from Charlemagne back to 4th-c. Gallo-Romans was first proposed in an article in the American Genealogist, c. 1948. The English herald and genealogist A. L. Wagner noted this in a book over a decade later, saying, in effect, 'Boy, wouldn't that be great,' with the diplomatic but unmistakable implication that in its present form, the argument was irreducibly speculative.
...Sorry for the pontification, but speculative genealogy, while not necessarily oxymoronic, must always be acknowledged as such. ...Methodologically, it can be a little like starting from Wikipedia. From there, the job is to find anything you can cite with a straight face.

 

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All you had to say was, "check out this tooled job by Lanz". Then I would have answered very differently.
He is known to do more than, "clean up" his ancients before selling them. Looks like he and crew took some "artistic license" on this piece.
3 pages of reading posts to figure out that's what this post is about... grumble grumble.
Yes, Lanz sucks. I no longer purchase from this fraud nor should any of us.

 

Yes, but as I pointed out earlier, Lanz sold this at auction back in 1994. My understanding from various people's comments was that he had a good reputation back then, and that his penchant for shady activities began much more recently. Is that not the case?

 

Great point! I do remember reading that as well, from somebody I trust and respect highly. My apologies. I should've looked at how long ago it was sold. The above post makes it appear it was just sold.

 

So this coin is sold today, but this is already 2 times. Lanz sold it for the first time in 1994. But these ideal coins have not changed since ten. And I suspect that there was a gang in the 1970s that flew in a time machine 2400 years ago and brought new antique coins from there.And then they sold these coins for a lot of money to billionaire collectors like Margaretha Ley.

 

Don't think I haven't imagined that scenario myself!