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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 5310498, member: 99456"][ATTACH=full]1224171[/ATTACH]I was probably under the influence of posts from [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER], [USER=31620]@maridvnvm[/USER] like <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/this-is-why-is-specialise.372048/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/this-is-why-is-specialise.372048/">This is why I specialise</a> or <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/sept-sev-emesa.365880/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/sept-sev-emesa.365880/">Sep. Sev. Emesa</a> when I impulsively picked up this coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>What Mint? </b>The puzzle of what mint this might have come from is also appealing. Having little to no expertise in these coins the portrait looks to me like those from the McAlee collection that I see described as 'Old style' <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A" rel="nofollow">Laodicea ad Mare</a> mint e.g. <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7243479" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7243479" rel="nofollow">this coin</a>. There is no match in RIC, but perhaps similar to <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A" rel="nofollow">RIC 460a</a>. Two other mints seems plausible: <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.411A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.411A" rel="nofollow">Emesa</a> (<a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.411A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.411A" rel="nofollow">RIC 411a</a>), and <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.350A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.350A" rel="nofollow">Alexandria</a> (<a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.350A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.350A" rel="nofollow">RIC 350a</a>). After agonizing a bit I chose Laodicea based on the use of IMP at end of the legend. Hopefully [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER], or [USER=31620]@maridvnvm[/USER] or others can point me in the right direction.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>The Legend? </b>the puzzle of figuring out the legend on this coin coin was certainly a draw. BMCRE vol. V (2005) notes that on coins from Laodicea ad Mare <i>"IMP is always treated as a cognomen and comes at the end of the obverse legend"</i> (Coins of the Roman Empire, vol V, cxxii).</p><p><br /></p><p>RIC IVa (1936) has this to say about "Group I" coins from Laodicea ad Mare i.e. coins with obverse legend ending in <b>IMP</b> and <b>IMP I</b>:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1224188[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>On this coin there clearly is no doubt that it ends in <b>IMP</b>. The rest of the obverse legend a bit more puzzling: <b>PER Λ IMP</b>? not a standard legend anyway - a lot of missing letters? a die maker who was just making it up as he went?</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Moneta's face? </b>Moneta's face also looks surprisingly bearded to me? The emperor in the guise of Moneta? or just a really pointy, forked chin?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1224104[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Septimius Severus</b>, AD 193-211, AR denarius, Loadicea ad Mare mint<span style="color: #b30000"><b>?</b></span>, struck AD 193<span style="color: #b30000"><b>?</b></span></p><p><b>Obv: </b>CΛE L SEP SEV PER Λ IMP, laureate head of Septimius facing right</p><p><b>Rev: </b>M-ONET ΛVG, Moneta standing left, holding cornucopiae and scales</p><p><b>Size: </b>2.38g, 12mm, die axis 6</p><p><b>Ref: </b>RIC exact match not found, but <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A" rel="nofollow">RIC 460a</a> different obverse legend, and earlier, not COS II? a rare 193 AD coin from this mint?</p><p><br /></p><p>Help with any of the questions above is much appreciated. <b>Post any coins that you find puzzling, or anything else you find interesting or entertaining.</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 5310498, member: 99456"][ATTACH=full]1224171[/ATTACH]I was probably under the influence of posts from [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER], [USER=31620]@maridvnvm[/USER] like [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/this-is-why-is-specialise.372048/']This is why I specialise[/URL] or [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/sept-sev-emesa.365880/']Sep. Sev. Emesa[/URL] when I impulsively picked up this coin. [B]What Mint? [/B]The puzzle of what mint this might have come from is also appealing. Having little to no expertise in these coins the portrait looks to me like those from the McAlee collection that I see described as 'Old style' [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A']Laodicea ad Mare[/URL] mint e.g. [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7243479']this coin[/URL]. There is no match in RIC, but perhaps similar to [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A']RIC 460a[/URL]. Two other mints seems plausible: [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.411A']Emesa[/URL] ([URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.411A']RIC 411a[/URL]), and [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.350A']Alexandria[/URL] ([URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.350A']RIC 350a[/URL]). After agonizing a bit I chose Laodicea based on the use of IMP at end of the legend. Hopefully [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER], or [USER=31620]@maridvnvm[/USER] or others can point me in the right direction. [B]The Legend? [/B]the puzzle of figuring out the legend on this coin coin was certainly a draw. BMCRE vol. V (2005) notes that on coins from Laodicea ad Mare [I]"IMP is always treated as a cognomen and comes at the end of the obverse legend"[/I] (Coins of the Roman Empire, vol V, cxxii). RIC IVa (1936) has this to say about "Group I" coins from Laodicea ad Mare i.e. coins with obverse legend ending in [B]IMP[/B] and [B]IMP I[/B]: [ATTACH=full]1224188[/ATTACH] On this coin there clearly is no doubt that it ends in [B]IMP[/B]. The rest of the obverse legend a bit more puzzling: [B]PER Λ IMP[/B]? not a standard legend anyway - a lot of missing letters? a die maker who was just making it up as he went? [B] Moneta's face? [/B]Moneta's face also looks surprisingly bearded to me? The emperor in the guise of Moneta? or just a really pointy, forked chin? [ATTACH=full]1224104[/ATTACH] [B]Septimius Severus[/B], AD 193-211, AR denarius, Loadicea ad Mare mint[COLOR=#b30000][B]?[/B][/COLOR], struck AD 193[COLOR=#b30000][B]?[/B][/COLOR] [B]Obv: [/B]CΛE L SEP SEV PER Λ IMP, laureate head of Septimius facing right [B]Rev: [/B]M-ONET ΛVG, Moneta standing left, holding cornucopiae and scales [B]Size: [/B]2.38g, 12mm, die axis 6 [B]Ref: [/B]RIC exact match not found, but [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.460A']RIC 460a[/URL] different obverse legend, and earlier, not COS II? a rare 193 AD coin from this mint? Help with any of the questions above is much appreciated. [B]Post any coins that you find puzzling, or anything else you find interesting or entertaining.[/B][/QUOTE]
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