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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2063949, member: 56859"]Well... almost a pound. I'm 40 grams short. Guess I'll buy another coin <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. It's a great series to collect and there are hundreds more I could justify adding to the set. I don't even have all the denominations yet, much less all rulers and major types.</p><p><br /></p><p>Eight of these came from <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/crocodile-surprise.235914/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/crocodile-surprise.235914/">one fantastic lot</a> (Stack's Bowers, 8/20/13). That lot also included three Alexandrian tetradrachms (which I love to collect) and a very worn COL NEM. I bid on the lot primarily for the massive Ptolemy II, advertised as 47mm but I measure 48. Stop rolling your eyes... in the "mine is bigger" world of monster bronzes this is a point of pride <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Another huge plus for that lot was provenance. They were collected by Professor James R. Eaton (1834-1897) and stayed in his family until I bought them. I guess Professor Eaton wasn't sure of some attributions either as none came in handy envelopes with full attribution. In his defense, Svoronos wasn't yet written when Eaton was alive.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've photographed and rephotographed these coins and still am not satisfied. I also never attributed most of the Stack's coins until today. Rather, I tried and failed to attributed them. A few still have question marks. My pages and pages of notes are scattered about as I write. Literature is conflicting and/or I'm confused. I've used <a href="http://ptolemybronze.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ptolemybronze.com/" rel="nofollow">PtolemyBronze</a>, their attribution software, and the online-viewable text and plate of Svoronos, etc but it's a challenge. After uploading this post I'll work on it a bit more.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have an even dozen Ptolemy bronzes, although I thought I had one more medium-sized Ptolemy. Maybe it's misfiled.</p><p><br /></p><p>The accumulation began out of a fascination with Zeus Ammon. More were purchased as gifts. Gifts which once again have not been given and probably won't be given. I want to keep them now!</p><p><br /></p><p>Please pile on your Ptolemy bronzes to this already piled-on post <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><i><font size="3">(Relative sizes preserved in this composite)</font></i></p><p>[ATTACH=full]380929[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Top left to bottom, then bottom right to top:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemyii-ae48/cth8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemyii-ae48/cth8" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy II</a>, 48 mm, 91.8 gm. Sv446</p><p>2. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemyiv-ae42/c1rpx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemyiv-ae42/c1rpx" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy IV</a>, 42 mm, 67.9 gm. Sv992</p><p>3. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iv/c89b" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iv/c89b" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy IV?</a>, 40 mm, 64.8 gm. Sv1125 or 1126?</p><p>4. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iii-ae38/chpr" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iii-ae38/chpr" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy III</a>, 38 mm, 44.0 gm. Sv974</p><p>5. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iv-ae36/c1vm8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iv-ae36/c1vm8" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy IV</a>, 36 mm, 41.9 gm. Sv1148?</p><p>6. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-ii-ae32/cvmx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-ii-ae32/cvmx" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy II</a>, 32 mm, 22.5 gm. Sv760</p><p>7. Ptolemy VI-VIII? V-VI?, 30 mm, 25.4 gm. Sv1383? 1424a or b?</p><p>8. Ptolemy VI-VIII?, 29 mm, 24.3 gm. Sv1383? 1424b?</p><p>9. <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-ii-obol/cf18" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-ii-obol/cf18" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy II</a>, 22 mm, 8.75 gm. Sv483</p><p>10. Ptolemy IX, X, XI, or XII?, 20 mm, 9.2 gm. Sv1698? (what is that thing or things in the left field reverse? Might it be a cornucopia? I can't find a match)</p><p>11. Ptolemy VIII?, 20 mm, 6.8 gm. Double eagles, no monogram between legs. I cannot determine the left field figure. It somewhat looks like a silphium plant which would make this Ptolemy VIII struck in Kyrene, Sv1158.</p><p>12. Ptolemy VII?, 20 mm, 6.6 gm. Same dilemma as coin #11.</p><p><br /></p><p>If anyone reading this is fluent with Ptolemy bronze attributions please chime in and correct me or set me on the right path <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2063949, member: 56859"]Well... almost a pound. I'm 40 grams short. Guess I'll buy another coin :D. It's a great series to collect and there are hundreds more I could justify adding to the set. I don't even have all the denominations yet, much less all rulers and major types. Eight of these came from [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/crocodile-surprise.235914/']one fantastic lot[/URL] (Stack's Bowers, 8/20/13). That lot also included three Alexandrian tetradrachms (which I love to collect) and a very worn COL NEM. I bid on the lot primarily for the massive Ptolemy II, advertised as 47mm but I measure 48. Stop rolling your eyes... in the "mine is bigger" world of monster bronzes this is a point of pride :D. Another huge plus for that lot was provenance. They were collected by Professor James R. Eaton (1834-1897) and stayed in his family until I bought them. I guess Professor Eaton wasn't sure of some attributions either as none came in handy envelopes with full attribution. In his defense, Svoronos wasn't yet written when Eaton was alive. I've photographed and rephotographed these coins and still am not satisfied. I also never attributed most of the Stack's coins until today. Rather, I tried and failed to attributed them. A few still have question marks. My pages and pages of notes are scattered about as I write. Literature is conflicting and/or I'm confused. I've used [URL='http://ptolemybronze.com/']PtolemyBronze[/URL], their attribution software, and the online-viewable text and plate of Svoronos, etc but it's a challenge. After uploading this post I'll work on it a bit more. I have an even dozen Ptolemy bronzes, although I thought I had one more medium-sized Ptolemy. Maybe it's misfiled. The accumulation began out of a fascination with Zeus Ammon. More were purchased as gifts. Gifts which once again have not been given and probably won't be given. I want to keep them now! Please pile on your Ptolemy bronzes to this already piled-on post :D [I][SIZE=3](Relative sizes preserved in this composite)[/SIZE][/I] [ATTACH=full]380929[/ATTACH] Top left to bottom, then bottom right to top: 1. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemyii-ae48/cth8']Ptolemy II[/URL], 48 mm, 91.8 gm. Sv446 2. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemyiv-ae42/c1rpx']Ptolemy IV[/URL], 42 mm, 67.9 gm. Sv992 3. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iv/c89b']Ptolemy IV?[/URL], 40 mm, 64.8 gm. Sv1125 or 1126? 4. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iii-ae38/chpr']Ptolemy III[/URL], 38 mm, 44.0 gm. Sv974 5. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-iv-ae36/c1vm8']Ptolemy IV[/URL], 36 mm, 41.9 gm. Sv1148? 6. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-ii-ae32/cvmx']Ptolemy II[/URL], 32 mm, 22.5 gm. Sv760 7. Ptolemy VI-VIII? V-VI?, 30 mm, 25.4 gm. Sv1383? 1424a or b? 8. Ptolemy VI-VIII?, 29 mm, 24.3 gm. Sv1383? 1424b? 9. [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!egypt-ptolemy-ii-obol/cf18']Ptolemy II[/URL], 22 mm, 8.75 gm. Sv483 10. Ptolemy IX, X, XI, or XII?, 20 mm, 9.2 gm. Sv1698? (what is that thing or things in the left field reverse? Might it be a cornucopia? I can't find a match) 11. Ptolemy VIII?, 20 mm, 6.8 gm. Double eagles, no monogram between legs. I cannot determine the left field figure. It somewhat looks like a silphium plant which would make this Ptolemy VIII struck in Kyrene, Sv1158. 12. Ptolemy VII?, 20 mm, 6.6 gm. Same dilemma as coin #11. If anyone reading this is fluent with Ptolemy bronze attributions please chime in and correct me or set me on the right path :).[/QUOTE]
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