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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1538370, member: 27832"]There are two things going on here.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, "$1 FV silver" generally refers to some combination of dimes, quarters, and halves. Uncirculated silver dollars (excluding, as you say, Trade Dollars and older issues) contain about 7% more silver than the corresponding face value of uncirculated dimes/quarters/halves.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, the weight-loss-through-wear issue is a bit complex. I started to do some empirical investigation, but sort of dropped the ball:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t154492/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t154492/">http://www.cointalk.com/t154492/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t144944/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t144944/">http://www.cointalk.com/t144944/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>General points:</p><p><br /></p><p>1) It seems like you don't start to see serious weight loss until you get down into the single-digit grades. Everyone seems to agree on this.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) There's disagreement as to whether the early stages of wear come from metal being worn away, or just flattened into the coin. I strongly believe the former; Doug strongly believes the latter. I think if the metal were just being squashed down, we'd see evidence on the legends and other sharp high points -- mushroom-caps where the metal has been beaten down. On coins I've examined closely, I almost never see that. And since the high points cover a small fraction of the coin's surface area, removing a thin layer of metal just from them doesn't take away much of the coin's mass, explaining why you don't see much weight loss in higher circulated grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>3) Weight loss with wear is much more pronounced in smaller denominations. That's because weight comes from the <i>volume</i> of metal in a coin, but wear happens at the <i>surface</i> -- and smaller objects have more surface area relative to their volume (the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-cube_law" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-cube_law" rel="nofollow">square-cube law</a>). So, yeah, silver dollars lose a smaller fraction of their weight than do half dollars, and dimes lose a lot more.</p><p><br /></p><p>I really should get organized and write something up about this. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't belong in the "newbie flyer". <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1538370, member: 27832"]There are two things going on here. First, "$1 FV silver" generally refers to some combination of dimes, quarters, and halves. Uncirculated silver dollars (excluding, as you say, Trade Dollars and older issues) contain about 7% more silver than the corresponding face value of uncirculated dimes/quarters/halves. Second, the weight-loss-through-wear issue is a bit complex. I started to do some empirical investigation, but sort of dropped the ball: [url]http://www.cointalk.com/t154492/[/url] [url]http://www.cointalk.com/t144944/[/url] General points: 1) It seems like you don't start to see serious weight loss until you get down into the single-digit grades. Everyone seems to agree on this. 2) There's disagreement as to whether the early stages of wear come from metal being worn away, or just flattened into the coin. I strongly believe the former; Doug strongly believes the latter. I think if the metal were just being squashed down, we'd see evidence on the legends and other sharp high points -- mushroom-caps where the metal has been beaten down. On coins I've examined closely, I almost never see that. And since the high points cover a small fraction of the coin's surface area, removing a thin layer of metal just from them doesn't take away much of the coin's mass, explaining why you don't see much weight loss in higher circulated grades. 3) Weight loss with wear is much more pronounced in smaller denominations. That's because weight comes from the [I]volume[/I] of metal in a coin, but wear happens at the [I]surface[/I] -- and smaller objects have more surface area relative to their volume (the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-cube_law"]square-cube law[/URL]). So, yeah, silver dollars lose a smaller fraction of their weight than do half dollars, and dimes lose a lot more. I really should get organized and write something up about this. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't belong in the "newbie flyer". :)[/QUOTE]
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