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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 2458207, member: 66"]Yep, that's why it was passed. The .999 fine planchets actually cost them less than the .900 fine planchets. As for the proof sets, they are "silver" proof sets, not 90% silver proof sets, so they will just switch to the new composition and charge a little more for them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I will try.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why? The sets are SUPPOSE to represent the coins of this country. If they stop making the cent for circulation it is no longer one of our coins. It should be removed. (I firmly believe the Kennedy half should be removed from the sets for the same reason.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So which is it? Do you want all these real people on the coins, including a woman, or do you only want Lady Liberty?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They have managed to reduced the cost over the past few years, but the cent still costs two cents apiece to make and the five cent costs either eight or nine cents.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Possibly, but you may have a lot of trouble keeping a consistent alloy composition considering the melting point of nickel is more than a thousand degrees higher than the boiling point of zinc. With copper/zinc alloys they can get around that to some extent by dissolving copper in molten zinc but even then they have problems controlling the zinc content as the copper content rises. The zinc starts boiling off. Since the melting point of nickel is almost 700 degrees higher than that of copper I'm not sure the dissolving trick would work either. On the other hand if you can get the nickel to dissolve at the lower temperature, the lower percentage of nickel might make it workable. Then all you have to do is try to figure out how to get it to work in all the vending machine out there with it's lighter weight and different electromagnetic properties. Remember the machines will need to be able to accept both types of five cent coin.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Can you explain your reasoning behind this? I'm not sure I understand the point. I assume you are trying to increase the use of the $2 notes, but you are going to run into resistance from the old argument "There's no room in the cash register".</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>We do? Again can you explain why? I have checks and credit cards. I don't see why I (or anyone else) should need a $500 of $1000 note. If I really have to worry about someone accepting a really LARGE check, say I want to buy a house without a mortgage, there are always certified checks or wire transfers. Is there some use where $500 and $1000 notes have a real advantage?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What purpose would this coin serve that isn't already being adequately served by nickels, dimes and quarters? Now I will agree that if the five cent piece is discontinued then the 20 cent piece makes more sense than the quarter, but again you would have the problem having both coins in circulation from confusion over the size and where to put them in the cash register. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wouldn't object to that. Makes a nice image and a good continuation of the use of a painting like they did on the back of the two.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope although I have disagreed or questions most of your opinions, I hope you see I have treated them with respect.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 2458207, member: 66"]Yep, that's why it was passed. The .999 fine planchets actually cost them less than the .900 fine planchets. As for the proof sets, they are "silver" proof sets, not 90% silver proof sets, so they will just switch to the new composition and charge a little more for them. I will try. Why? The sets are SUPPOSE to represent the coins of this country. If they stop making the cent for circulation it is no longer one of our coins. It should be removed. (I firmly believe the Kennedy half should be removed from the sets for the same reason.) So which is it? Do you want all these real people on the coins, including a woman, or do you only want Lady Liberty? They have managed to reduced the cost over the past few years, but the cent still costs two cents apiece to make and the five cent costs either eight or nine cents. Possibly, but you may have a lot of trouble keeping a consistent alloy composition considering the melting point of nickel is more than a thousand degrees higher than the boiling point of zinc. With copper/zinc alloys they can get around that to some extent by dissolving copper in molten zinc but even then they have problems controlling the zinc content as the copper content rises. The zinc starts boiling off. Since the melting point of nickel is almost 700 degrees higher than that of copper I'm not sure the dissolving trick would work either. On the other hand if you can get the nickel to dissolve at the lower temperature, the lower percentage of nickel might make it workable. Then all you have to do is try to figure out how to get it to work in all the vending machine out there with it's lighter weight and different electromagnetic properties. Remember the machines will need to be able to accept both types of five cent coin.) Can you explain your reasoning behind this? I'm not sure I understand the point. I assume you are trying to increase the use of the $2 notes, but you are going to run into resistance from the old argument "There's no room in the cash register". We do? Again can you explain why? I have checks and credit cards. I don't see why I (or anyone else) should need a $500 of $1000 note. If I really have to worry about someone accepting a really LARGE check, say I want to buy a house without a mortgage, there are always certified checks or wire transfers. Is there some use where $500 and $1000 notes have a real advantage? What purpose would this coin serve that isn't already being adequately served by nickels, dimes and quarters? Now I will agree that if the five cent piece is discontinued then the 20 cent piece makes more sense than the quarter, but again you would have the problem having both coins in circulation from confusion over the size and where to put them in the cash register. I wouldn't object to that. Makes a nice image and a good continuation of the use of a painting like they did on the back of the two. I hope although I have disagreed or questions most of your opinions, I hope you see I have treated them with respect.[/QUOTE]
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