A note about 2017

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Omegaraptor, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I'd say I don't really care.

    He was a good President for the short time that he was here but it's about time to get rid of the Kennedy Half Dollar. Not perpetuate it. Nor continue to commemorate him.

    The coin itself signifies the epitome of ignorance both on the governments part and the Capitalists part.

    The coin serves absolutely no purpose other than to line the Treasury Departments coffers and has no use in general commerce other than for the truly ignorant to ask "Is this a Dollar?" or from being used by Casino's to pay out $1 BlackJack bets.

    It just doesn't fit anywhere and is a waste of time and resource to produce.

    Not to mention the fact that our coinage should celebrate and commemorate LIBERTY as the founding fathers wanted.
     
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Thanks for the reminder. Kinda like a childhood nightmare that keeps coming back.
     
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  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    images.jpeg bill_the_cat_adoption.jpg Now" Bill the Cat " he would be great on a coin.
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  6. YoNitz

    YoNitz New Member

    Well, I just majored in history.
     
  7. YoNitz

    YoNitz New Member

    Peace Corps on reverse?
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Shoot, that's right. Kennedy pioneered the program. I wanted to join, back in the day, but I lacked the necessary skills to determine which fork to use at a garden party...........
     
  9. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Ken:
    YoNitz must be as old as we are but his memory is still intact. Sometimes I feel like Dora from the Walt Disney film.
     
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  10. TheMont

    TheMont Well-Known Member

    I find it interesting that when I made posts concerning coins, I didn't get a response, but if I made a critical remark about the forum, then posts followed.

    "World Colonial" if you go back and read my original post you will find that I did not suggest the Mint issue a new Kennedy Commemorative in 1917, I commented on the fact that they issues a series of Kennedy coins in 2014 to commemorate a Kennedy COIN they issued in 1964. The Mint does strange things, but then again, the Mint does what's best for the Mint, not the collector.

    I belong to other coin forums and they require that you use your real name, I was surprised when I came onto this forum and found people using aliases. The reasoning is, when a made up name is used, people tend to feel safe in posting things they wouldn't normally post if they used their own names. Yes I did ask about names and using aliases on this forum, isn't it interesting that you didn't take the time to help a new person and tell them how to change to a new name, but waited until now to bring it up. No one answered that question.

    Lastly, any coin that I have that is at all valuable is safely tucked away in my bank two blocks away. Anyone who keeps an expensive coin collection at home is just asking for trouble. I don't believe coin thieves read the posts on this forum and if they did, I don't think they'd bother trying to track me down from just my name (assuming the name I'm using is really my name). I enjoy coin collecting and enjoy sharing what I and others know about the hobby, I just got the impression that the people on this forum have gotten comfortable with each other and when a new person pops up, that person is either ignored or not made to feel welcome.

    For an example of how this can harm a forum you only have to look at the MCM forum, it was going hot and heavy with posts coming on at a rapid pace. People became familiar with each other and tended to not acknowledge new people. That forum became stale and now I rarely see a new post on it. New people bring new ideas to a forum and help to keep it fresh and alive and should be welcomed.

    Sorry, I tend to put to much into a post, I have to learn to keep it shorter.
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    If it hasn't been said, I would prefer a WW1 tribute. A gold, silver, and copper commemorative, ahh throw in the nickel.
     
  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I think that would only work if they put face value of silver in the coin - a quarter with 25 cents worth of silver in it. Would be pretty unique, and people might not hoard as much.
     
  13. YoNitz

    YoNitz New Member

    A few weeks ago, I was describing the half-dollar to some teen-agers when a girl asked me for clarification, "Are they one of those big quarters?"
     
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  14. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    You are right, I did not "take the time" because another moderator had already answered your question. And as you see in this topic, we do write about coins as well. :) But in any community that has been around for a while you have veterans and newbies so to say. Sure, the former could sometimes be a little nicer, and the latter could sometimes be a little less sensitive, but by and large it works, I think.

    The idea to combine a portrait and a reference to the Peace Corps would indeed be good in my opinion. But I fear that others would then ask why that is the only aspect mentioned on the coin ...

    Christian
     
  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I can understand being new or a once and a while poster where you may feel like you do regarding the forum . However I am Paddy not a fake name, I do use the iggy button on those I chose not to read their post or care to get into a forum fight over something that truly is not worth the time or effort . That said when you put all of this on a scale each needs to weight out what is good and bad. The information here is vast. You not need to agree with everything posted but at least it's food for thought.
    Each of us here do and have over stepped our bounds,at such time the mods. Play judge and make the call.
    You'll never find today in this forum or world using this media a safe haven from the over views of others.
    The knowledge here like that written in any text needs to be filtered by the reader and used as best as one can..... it's not gospel but it does give you a right ,left,and middle of the road view. Welcome aboard Patrick
     
  16. YoNitz

    YoNitz New Member

    Point-well-taken; how about a trio of Peace Corps - Mercury Program (Sheppard/Glenn) - "13-Days, 1962" on the reverse? I think "1,000-Days" might also be apropos somewhere on the reverse.
     
  17. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    It would be cool to see Shepard, Glenn and Armstrong take turns on the quarter even if was just temporary. And even if the dolts in this country think they're Bieber's three uncles.
     
  18. BATTERup646

    BATTERup646 Active Member

    I believe the cent should stay. Even if it is taken out, it would be put in mint sets like the half dollar. If it is taken out however, They should move Lincoln onto another coin. FDR should stay, I mean with the whole march of dimes thing. I'd also like a series like the presidential dollars, but only influential Americans like Walt Disney or Thomas Edison. The cent and nickel don't cost more than what they are worth to mint either. Anyway the nickel can easily be saved by replacing the copper composition with zinc. I also believe mint sets should have coins that were stamped with more detailed dies, and have their original composition. Ex. Lincoln penny = 95% copper, 5% tin & zinc. I don't believe the dollar note should be ceased, only production should be as much as the $2. And face it, we need a $500 note, maybe even a $1,000. I'm with keeping presidents (and presidents only, so no Ben or Alex) on the bills, and keep lady liberty on all other coinage except the penny and dime, and quarter. And I would also like the introduction of a 20 cent piece. What I would like the most would be a reintroduction of the Peace Dollar, only in clad composition. I believe only Lady Liberty should be on circulating money, not that I don't want a woman on any issue, I actually do. But I do believe it's kind of silly adding a mural on the back of the $5. I would instead like the likeness of the painting "The Peacemakers" on the back of the new $5.

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    George P.A. Healy, 1868 (It's wider, just that this text box isn't very big.)

    And the new $20 could have another depiction of Woodrow Wilson, the president who ended Women's suffrage.

    Now, this is my opinion. If you have a different opinion, that's good, but please respect mine.
     
  19. TheMont

    TheMont Well-Known Member

    One last comment on accepting new members and then I will only make posts concerning coins and currency. I don't know how it is done, but I have received several private posts from people who agreed with my contention that new members are are not welcomed into the forum community. So where I could be dismissed as being overly sensitive, apparently others agree with me and it also tells something when they use private posts for fear of regular members jumping on them. Their stories were interesting.

    The Congress, which regulates the Mints coinage, has just passed a new and very interesting law, the law now reads that U.S. silver coins will be no LESS than 90% gold or silver. The mint has to buy its silver from US sellers, they make it a purity of .999, the Mint then ships it to the Perth Mint where it adds 10% copper to make the silver 90% to comply with the old law. It costs more to do this than if the Mint just made the silver coins .999, this is probably why the law was changed. Let's see what happens to those 90% Silver Proof Sets in the near future.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yep, that's why it was passed. The .999 fine planchets actually cost them less than the .900 fine planchets. As for the proof sets, they are "silver" proof sets, not 90% silver proof sets, so they will just switch to the new composition and charge a little more for them.

    I will try.

    Why? The sets are SUPPOSE to represent the coins of this country. If they stop making the cent for circulation it is no longer one of our coins. It should be removed. (I firmly believe the Kennedy half should be removed from the sets for the same reason.)

    So which is it? Do you want all these real people on the coins, including a woman, or do you only want Lady Liberty?

    They have managed to reduced the cost over the past few years, but the cent still costs two cents apiece to make and the five cent costs either eight or nine cents.

    Possibly, but you may have a lot of trouble keeping a consistent alloy composition considering the melting point of nickel is more than a thousand degrees higher than the boiling point of zinc. With copper/zinc alloys they can get around that to some extent by dissolving copper in molten zinc but even then they have problems controlling the zinc content as the copper content rises. The zinc starts boiling off. Since the melting point of nickel is almost 700 degrees higher than that of copper I'm not sure the dissolving trick would work either. On the other hand if you can get the nickel to dissolve at the lower temperature, the lower percentage of nickel might make it workable. Then all you have to do is try to figure out how to get it to work in all the vending machine out there with it's lighter weight and different electromagnetic properties. Remember the machines will need to be able to accept both types of five cent coin.)

    Can you explain your reasoning behind this? I'm not sure I understand the point. I assume you are trying to increase the use of the $2 notes, but you are going to run into resistance from the old argument "There's no room in the cash register".

    We do? Again can you explain why? I have checks and credit cards. I don't see why I (or anyone else) should need a $500 of $1000 note. If I really have to worry about someone accepting a really LARGE check, say I want to buy a house without a mortgage, there are always certified checks or wire transfers. Is there some use where $500 and $1000 notes have a real advantage?

    What purpose would this coin serve that isn't already being adequately served by nickels, dimes and quarters? Now I will agree that if the five cent piece is discontinued then the 20 cent piece makes more sense than the quarter, but again you would have the problem having both coins in circulation from confusion over the size and where to put them in the cash register.

    I wouldn't object to that. Makes a nice image and a good continuation of the use of a painting like they did on the back of the two.

    I hope although I have disagreed or questions most of your opinions, I hope you see I have treated them with respect.
     
  21. TheMont

    TheMont Well-Known Member

    I may be old fashioned, but I believe what George Washington said, he did not want his likeness on any of our coins or currency (notice they waited until he was dead before they put him on any coins or currency) He advocated for a symbol, such as Liberty on our coins. I'm especially fond of the image of Liberty on the 2015 $100 high relief gold coin. I know this may ruffle a few feathers, but I'm not looking forward to the proposed 2017 1 oz. $100 gold "Liberty" coin, because it will depict one ethnic group instead of the traditional Greek/Roman Liberty. I guess I'm more into the style of coins from the late 1800s to the early 1900s.
     
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