A newer Philip

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Nathan401, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I know, boring right? I put what was imo a low bid, I guess I didn't expect to win. But i love this coin, it has really hammered devices and great detail. I also love that the entire die made it onto the flan,(something we were just talking about in @Sallent thread ) nice and centered. Common, cheap, and a great detailed example of some ancient silver.
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    Phillip I AD 244-249
    AR Antoninianus Rome AD 244
    23mm 3.82g
    radiate draped and cuirassed bust right
    Laetitia standing facing, head left, holding wreath and rudder
    RIC 36b RSC 80
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    That is a nice example, congrats.
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Nice! I love the mid-third-century, numismatically.

    Here's a Philip from my collection with a Felicitas-with-a-Princess-Leia-hairdo reverse:

    Philip I The Arab Felicitas Antoninianus.jpg
    Philip I The Arab, AD 244-249
    Roman AR antoninianus 3.8g, 23mm, 12h
    Rome mint, AD 248
    Obv.: IMP PHILLIPVS AVG; Radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right, from behind
    Rev.: P M TR P IIII COS II PP; Felicitas standing left, long caduceus in right hand, cornucopia in left
    Refs: RIC 5; Cohen 137; RCV 8946 var. (obv. legend).
  5. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Beautiful OP - I cannot believe how nice the reverse is. Most of these are so mushy from worn-out dies. Nice find.
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  6. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I forgot to add, I was the sole bidder at $45, Triskeles Auction.
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  7. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Great OP coin. Do you notice a hint of Gordian's facial features? Especially the nose, forehead and eyes, and hairline. It's almost as if news of Gordian's death arrived along with a portrait of the new emperor, and the celator modified the die he was just starting to work on to look like the new emperor.

    Here is my one Philip I "Spock" coin which I've shared before with all of you.

    Philip I Ant 246AD.jpg
  8. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Sallent is spot on regarding that Gordian aged up a bit portrait. The reverse honors the happy beginnings of the new administration/dynasty. It almost seems a shame to collect one of these two without the other and I know Gordian is popular as the wronged party but Philip is a fine example of a mature, strong emperor who has many reverse types I consider much more interesting than those used by Gordian. We usually see a few of his common ones and the Saeculares series animals but it might be time to show a few others.

    Victoria Carpica - names a specific enemy tribe Rome defeated

    Pax Fundata cum Persis - and one not defeated but bought off (Antioch mint)

    Hope for a happy world (Antioch)
    Father and son on horseback - part of the Greek lettered officina series
    Arrival on horseback

    Elephant (Aeternitas)

    Yes, I do like the coins of Philip.
  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    You are right, I could use a few more Philips to go with my hoard of Gordian III coins. I think I'll make a note and see if I can rectify that next year.

    I love your selection of Philip I coins.

    I do also have a Tet of his from Antioch

    Philip I Tetadrachm of Antioch (1).jpeg
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  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Really nice selection, Doug. To go from those beauties to my beast, here is my only Philip elephant, somewhat reduced through the centuries...

    Philip I Elephant Ant (1).JPG
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  12. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Absolutely! ! Great collection! Sallent, your coin looks like it just came off the die. It's actually what I had in mind when I first saw this Laetitia. They just look so perfect.
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  13. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    That's really smart!! I was showing this coin to my Wife earlier this evening, and I commented on how much younger he looked than his depictions on my other Phils.
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  14. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    With my large collection of Gordians, I guess I've gotten so used to seeing his portrait that when I first saw your coin the resemblance jumped out at me right away. My first thought was "That's Gordian with a beard and a slightly modified forehead."

    I have a modified portrait in my collection. This is an Alexander Severus portrait modified to look older in a coin of Maximinus Thrax. You can tell the imperial portrait of Maximinus Thrax hadn't arrived yet, so the celator improvised and aged a portrait of Alexander Severus as a stand-in for Thrax..

    Maximinus Thrax denarii.jpg
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    That a nice one for the price, and as I always say, there's really nothing like a bit of Laetitia Fvndata. Okay, I never say that, but only because I would get strange looks.

    Here's one from the Ludi Saeculares series celebrating the 1000th anniversary of Rome.
    Philip the Arab - Saecvli Wolf 1001.jpg
    AR Antoninianus. 4.09g, 24.2mm, Rome mint, AD 248. RIC 15; Cohen 178. O: IMP PHILIPPVS AVG, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right. R: SAECVLARES AVGG, She-wolf standing left suckling twins (first twin seated, second kneeling, both really going for that yummy wolf milk) and turning back head to lick them; II (officina 2) in exergue.
  16. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Here's a sestertius for this lovely thread. (RIC 150a, issued AD 247.)
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    PHILIP I 6.jpg
    AE Sestertius
    OBVERSE: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, laureate and draped bust right
    REVERSE: AETERNITAS AVGG, elephant and driver walking left, SC in ex.
    Struck at Rome, 247-8 AD
    20.6g, 28mm
    RIC 161a
    Philip I 4.jpg
    AE Sestertius
    OBVERSE: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, laureate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: LIBERALITAS AVGG II S-C, Liberalitas standing left, holding abacus & cornucopiae
    Struck at Rome, 247-8 AD
    23.5g, 30mm
    RIC 180a, Cohen 88
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Nice Ant @Nathan401 !

    This is the only Phil I I have:
    RI Philip I 244-249 CE AR Ant radiate zoo Antelope 1000 yr anniv Rome.jpg
    RI Philip I 244-249 CE AR Ant radiate zoo Antelope 1000 yr anniv Rome

    And his Wife:
    RI Otacilia Severa 244-249 CE w-Philip I AR Ant Pietas Augustae incense RIC IV 43.jpg
    RI Otacilia Severa 244-249 CE w-Philip I AR Ant Pietas Augustae incense RIC IV 43
  19. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's my Phillip ant. VICTORIA AVGG. Nice and shiny and a bit toned.


  20. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Thanks!! So, I have some Phils, I have one of his boy, I guess now I'll need one of his Wife. It just doesn't make sense not to at this point.;)
  21. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coin!

    Yup, just need his wife :)

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