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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 3970808, member: 46237"]Yeah, keep in mind these will all be 1994 or later, and not all issues had them. I'm working on compiling a list, but it's a significant effort. Any PL issues prior to 1994 will be legit PL coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Once you know the look, these are easy to spot. They basically look like proofs with slightly textured fields and an absolute lack of any cameo.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have seen more Hungarian moderns getting slabbed, so this was becoming an issue. Of course the high grade coins people want to submit are from the mint sets, and most are these PL issues. I think people don't even realize they are not business strikes except for the advanced Hungarian modern collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hopefully they will start doing this correctly and consistently going forward, but it doesn't help fix the ones that are out there already incorrectly designated as MSxx PL or MSxx DPL (I've seen both). Coins intentionally struck as a prooflike product should be ineligible for the PL or DPL designations by NGC's own rules.</p><p><br /></p><p>I started this process with NGC and sent them some of the preliminary lists I had put together of modern issues and their available strikes, and have been working with them on this for the better part of 2019. I actually did a test where I submitted 5 coins on a larger modern submission that were BU strikes, but I listed them as MS on the submission form to see what happened. They all got identified as BU (even ones that weren't on my list) and slabbed correctly as PLxx, so it's promising.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 3970808, member: 46237"]Yeah, keep in mind these will all be 1994 or later, and not all issues had them. I'm working on compiling a list, but it's a significant effort. Any PL issues prior to 1994 will be legit PL coins. Once you know the look, these are easy to spot. They basically look like proofs with slightly textured fields and an absolute lack of any cameo. I have seen more Hungarian moderns getting slabbed, so this was becoming an issue. Of course the high grade coins people want to submit are from the mint sets, and most are these PL issues. I think people don't even realize they are not business strikes except for the advanced Hungarian modern collectors. Hopefully they will start doing this correctly and consistently going forward, but it doesn't help fix the ones that are out there already incorrectly designated as MSxx PL or MSxx DPL (I've seen both). Coins intentionally struck as a prooflike product should be ineligible for the PL or DPL designations by NGC's own rules. I started this process with NGC and sent them some of the preliminary lists I had put together of modern issues and their available strikes, and have been working with them on this for the better part of 2019. I actually did a test where I submitted 5 coins on a larger modern submission that were BU strikes, but I listed them as MS on the submission form to see what happened. They all got identified as BU (even ones that weren't on my list) and slabbed correctly as PLxx, so it's promising.[/QUOTE]
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