A new Phillip

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  1. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Indeed. But I would appear 'haggish' if I posted any of my 'moderns' here. Carry on gentlemen........:)
     
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  4. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    You can not resist the power of the Dark Side!
     
  5. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    So these Phillip coins were minted with a decent percentage of silver?
     
  6. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    Nice coins everyone.

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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I believe around 35-40% silver. Under Decius and Gallus the coins were debased further, and again by Valerian and Gallienus, who struck silver-appearing coins early in their reigns, but eventually struck just AE antoniniani with the silver wash. Things didn't improve until the monetary reforms of Diocletian when the fine silver argenteus was introduced, but this was only issued for a few years.
     
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  8. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice OP coin, and others. I will stick to Felicitas with two more

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    Philippus I, Antoninianus Rome mint, AD 247
    IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    P M TR P IIII COS II P P , Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopiae
    5.16 gr 20/23 mm
    Ref : RIC IV, part 3 #3


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    Philippus I, Sestertius Rome mint 248 AD
    IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, Draped and laureate bust of Philippus right
    P M TRP V COS III PP, Felicitas standing left, holding cornucopiae and caduceus
    18.71 gr
    Ref : Cohen #149, RCV #9008

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  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Whatever the percentages, it is usual to see Philip in good looking silver, frequent in Decius, occasional in Gallus and rare after the first years of Valerian/Gallienus joint reign. Some coins benefited from surface enrichment but there is a point in the alloy where the silver fights to look gray and loses. Postumus issued a few coins that looked decent in the ~20% range but it was straight downhill after that. Our terms for alloys of precious metals allows some fudging. Is 10k gold really gold with a lot of alloy or alloy with a bit of gold? If we applied the rules required in food labels, 10/24ths would not make gold the first ingredient but we are willing to accept 10/24 silver as 'decent'. I consider Decius the end of 'decent' but everyone has an opinion.
     
  12. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Thanks for the info!
     
  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    thanks ACH, it does do her justice:)
     
  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Love the posts guys!!
     
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  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Hello Skelosian...
     
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    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... :vulcan:
     
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  18. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Philippus I, Felicitas
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