Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
A New Hadrian Egyptian coin -- my 5th, plus one from Rome
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 5295053, member: 110350"]I saw this tetradrachm newly-listed last week. I had never even seen the type before, and thought it was perfect for me given my interest in Ancient Egyptian iconography. What could be more perfect than a mummy? So I decided to buy it right away, because who knows how long I'd have to wait for another one, never mind a better one? So what if I can't read the obverse legend? They're usually all pretty much the same anyway! Emmett puts it in the most common category. but I'm skeptical. There are only about 10 listed on acsearch, plus a few of a slightly different type from a different year. Am I the only one who's been missing it, or do others also think it's relatively uncommon?</p><p><br /></p><p>It's my fifth Hadrian Egyptian coin -- not to mention my Hadrian Aegyptos denarius from the Travel Series, minted in Rome. It's not that I ever set out to buy Hadrians rather than Alexandrian coins from other emperors; there just seem to be more of his on the market than anyone else's. Even though I'm pretty sure that there are others, including Antoninus Pius (for whom I have two) who minted just as many.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, here it is, along with the others. (Full references to sources are given only the first time.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 12 (126/127 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙ - ΤΡΑΙ ΑΔΡΙΑ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Mummiform Ptah-Sokar-Osiris* standing right, wearing solar disk as headdress, holding scepter tipped with jackal head, L ΔWΔƐ-ΚΑΤΟΥ [= Year 12 spelled out]. RPC [<i>Roman Provincial Coinage</i>] Vol. III 5713 (2015); RPC III Online at <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5713" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5713" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5713</a>, Emmett 883.12 [Emmett, Keith, <i>Alexandrian Coins</i> (Lodi, WI, 2001)]; BMC 16 Alexandria 637 & Pl. XXIII [Pool, Reginald Stuart, <i>A Catalog of the Greek Coins in the British Museum, Vol. 16, Alexandria</i> (London, 1892)]; Köln 982 [Geissen, A., <i>Katalog alexandrinischer Kaisermünzen</i>, <i>Köln</i>, Band II (Hadrian-Antoninus Pius) (Cologne, 1978, corrected reprint 1987)]; Dattari (Savio) 1445 [Savio, A. ed., <i>Catalogo completo della collezione Dattari Numi Augg. Alexandrini</i> (Trieste, 2007)]; Milne 1259 [Milne, J., <i>A Catalogue of the Alexandrian Coins in the Ashmolean Museum</i> (Oxford, 1933, reprint with supplement by Colin M. Kraay). 24 mm., 13.85 g., 11 h.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1222593[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>*From the description in the CNG Triton XXI Catalog (Staffieri Collection, Jan 9. 2018) of the example from the Dattari Collection (No. 1445), sold in the Triton XXI auction as Lot 61: The image of the Ptah-Sokar-Osiris divinity belongs to Egyptian theology, and in particular to funeral worship. It brings together three famous members of the Pharaonic Pantheon through their respective symbols: the headdress and scepter for Ptah, the solar disk for Osiris, and the mummiform wrappings for Sokar – the "Lord of the Necropolis." These three associated divinities call upon the concepts of "mourning" and "life", evoking at the same time the pain associated with death and the hope of resurrection. The main sanctuaries of Ptah, Sokar, and Osiris were at Memphis and Abydos.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 11 (126/127 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙ - ΤΡΑΙ ΑΔΡΙΑ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Canopic Jar of Osiris (a/k/a Osiris-Canopus Jar and Osiris-Hydreios)* right, surmounted by Atef crown above ram[?] horns; L ΕΝΔ - EKATΟΥ [= Year 11 spelled out]. RPC Vol. III 5640; RPC III Online at <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5640" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5640" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5640</a>; Köln 939; Milne 1205; Emmet 827.11; Dattari (Savio) 1327 . 25 mm., 13.41 g. (<i>Purchased from Harlan J. Berk, Ltd., 212th Buy or Bid Sale, August 2020<b>, </b>Lot 497.</i>)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1222596[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>*See <a href="https://egypt-museum.com/post/189683370661/osiris-canopus-jar#gsc.tab=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://egypt-museum.com/post/189683370661/osiris-canopus-jar#gsc.tab=0" rel="nofollow">https://egypt-museum.com/post/189683370661/osiris-canopus-jar#gsc.tab=0</a>, with photos of the Osiris-Canopus Jar from Hadrian’s Villa, now at the Vatican Museum, describing it as “A Canopic jar with the head of Osiris emerging from it. In the cult of Isis and Serapis, during the Ptolemaic and Roman periods. Osiris-Canopus jars (also known as Osiris-Hydreios) were carried by priests during processions. As they are solid, each symbolically carried water from the Nile, fertility that originated from the god Osiris, one of Egypt’s earliest fertility gods. Osiris-Canopus was named after the ancient Egyptian town of Canopus, on the western bank at the mouth of the westernmost branch of the Delta known as the Canopic or Heracleotic branch – not far from Alexandria. Roman Period, ca. 131-138 AD. Grey basalt, from Hadrian’s Villa. Now in the Vatican Museums (Gregoriano Egizio). 22852.”</p><p><br /></p><p>Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 18 (133/134 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ ΤΡΑΙΑΝ - ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Serapis enthroned left, wearing modius on head, holding scepter in left hand, and extending right hand toward Cerberus seated to left at his feet; L IH [= Year 18] in left field. RPC Vol. III 5871; RPC III Online at <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5871" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5871" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5871</a>; BMC 16 Alexandria 620-621 at p. 74 & PL. XIII; Köln 1095; Dattari (Savio) 1480; Emmett 892.18; Milne 1394; K&G 32.571 [Kampmann, Ursula & Granschow, Thomas, <i>Die Münzen der römischen Münzstätte Alexandria</i> (2008)]. 25 mm., 12.42 g., 12 h.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1222597[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 19 (134/135 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate bust left, slight drapery; ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ Τ[ΡΑΙΑΝ] - ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ (clockwise from upper right) [<i>bracketed portion off flan</i>] / Rev. Slightly draped bust of Nilus right, crowned with taenia and lotus-buds, cornucopia behind right shoulder; L ЄN NЄAKΔ [= Year 19 spelled out] (clockwise from lower left). RPC Vol. III 5941; RPC III Online at <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5941" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5941" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5941</a>; Köln 1147; Dattari (Savio) 7450-1; K&G 32.619; Milne 1449; Emmett 875.19. 24.5 mm., 13.10 g., 12 h.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1222598[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 22 (137/138 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate bust right, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ ΤΡΑΙΑ ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Nilus seated left on rocks, holding reed in right hand and cornucopiae in left; crocodile below; L KB (Year 22) in left field. RPC Vol. III 6254; RPC III Online at <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6254;" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6254;" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6254;</a> Emmett 879.22; Milne 1569; Köln.1241. 24 mm., 12.9 g.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1222604[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Hadrian AR Denarius, 136 AD, Travel Series, Rome Mint. Obv: HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P, bare head right / Rev: AEGYPTOS, Egypt reclining left, holding sistrum in right hand and resting left arm on basket; to left, ibis standing right. RIC II-3 1482 (2019 ed.), old RIC II 297d (1926 ed.), RSC II 99, Sear RCV II 3456, BMCRE 801-3. 18 mm., 3.11 g., 7 h.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1222600[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Please post your own Hadrian Egyptian coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 5295053, member: 110350"]I saw this tetradrachm newly-listed last week. I had never even seen the type before, and thought it was perfect for me given my interest in Ancient Egyptian iconography. What could be more perfect than a mummy? So I decided to buy it right away, because who knows how long I'd have to wait for another one, never mind a better one? So what if I can't read the obverse legend? They're usually all pretty much the same anyway! Emmett puts it in the most common category. but I'm skeptical. There are only about 10 listed on acsearch, plus a few of a slightly different type from a different year. Am I the only one who's been missing it, or do others also think it's relatively uncommon? It's my fifth Hadrian Egyptian coin -- not to mention my Hadrian Aegyptos denarius from the Travel Series, minted in Rome. It's not that I ever set out to buy Hadrians rather than Alexandrian coins from other emperors; there just seem to be more of his on the market than anyone else's. Even though I'm pretty sure that there are others, including Antoninus Pius (for whom I have two) who minted just as many. Anyway, here it is, along with the others. (Full references to sources are given only the first time.) Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 12 (126/127 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙ - ΤΡΑΙ ΑΔΡΙΑ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Mummiform Ptah-Sokar-Osiris* standing right, wearing solar disk as headdress, holding scepter tipped with jackal head, L ΔWΔƐ-ΚΑΤΟΥ [= Year 12 spelled out]. RPC [[I]Roman Provincial Coinage[/I]] Vol. III 5713 (2015); RPC III Online at [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5713[/URL], Emmett 883.12 [Emmett, Keith, [I]Alexandrian Coins[/I] (Lodi, WI, 2001)]; BMC 16 Alexandria 637 & Pl. XXIII [Pool, Reginald Stuart, [I]A Catalog of the Greek Coins in the British Museum, Vol. 16, Alexandria[/I] (London, 1892)]; Köln 982 [Geissen, A., [I]Katalog alexandrinischer Kaisermünzen[/I], [I]Köln[/I], Band II (Hadrian-Antoninus Pius) (Cologne, 1978, corrected reprint 1987)]; Dattari (Savio) 1445 [Savio, A. ed., [I]Catalogo completo della collezione Dattari Numi Augg. Alexandrini[/I] (Trieste, 2007)]; Milne 1259 [Milne, J., [I]A Catalogue of the Alexandrian Coins in the Ashmolean Museum[/I] (Oxford, 1933, reprint with supplement by Colin M. Kraay). 24 mm., 13.85 g., 11 h. [ATTACH=full]1222593[/ATTACH] *From the description in the CNG Triton XXI Catalog (Staffieri Collection, Jan 9. 2018) of the example from the Dattari Collection (No. 1445), sold in the Triton XXI auction as Lot 61: The image of the Ptah-Sokar-Osiris divinity belongs to Egyptian theology, and in particular to funeral worship. It brings together three famous members of the Pharaonic Pantheon through their respective symbols: the headdress and scepter for Ptah, the solar disk for Osiris, and the mummiform wrappings for Sokar – the "Lord of the Necropolis." These three associated divinities call upon the concepts of "mourning" and "life", evoking at the same time the pain associated with death and the hope of resurrection. The main sanctuaries of Ptah, Sokar, and Osiris were at Memphis and Abydos. Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 11 (126/127 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙ - ΤΡΑΙ ΑΔΡΙΑ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Canopic Jar of Osiris (a/k/a Osiris-Canopus Jar and Osiris-Hydreios)* right, surmounted by Atef crown above ram[?] horns; L ΕΝΔ - EKATΟΥ [= Year 11 spelled out]. RPC Vol. III 5640; RPC III Online at [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5640[/URL]; Köln 939; Milne 1205; Emmet 827.11; Dattari (Savio) 1327 . 25 mm., 13.41 g. ([I]Purchased from Harlan J. Berk, Ltd., 212th Buy or Bid Sale, August 2020[B], [/B]Lot 497.[/I]) [ATTACH=full]1222596[/ATTACH] *See [URL]https://egypt-museum.com/post/189683370661/osiris-canopus-jar#gsc.tab=0[/URL], with photos of the Osiris-Canopus Jar from Hadrian’s Villa, now at the Vatican Museum, describing it as “A Canopic jar with the head of Osiris emerging from it. In the cult of Isis and Serapis, during the Ptolemaic and Roman periods. Osiris-Canopus jars (also known as Osiris-Hydreios) were carried by priests during processions. As they are solid, each symbolically carried water from the Nile, fertility that originated from the god Osiris, one of Egypt’s earliest fertility gods. Osiris-Canopus was named after the ancient Egyptian town of Canopus, on the western bank at the mouth of the westernmost branch of the Delta known as the Canopic or Heracleotic branch – not far from Alexandria. Roman Period, ca. 131-138 AD. Grey basalt, from Hadrian’s Villa. Now in the Vatican Museums (Gregoriano Egizio). 22852.” Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 18 (133/134 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ ΤΡΑΙΑΝ - ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Serapis enthroned left, wearing modius on head, holding scepter in left hand, and extending right hand toward Cerberus seated to left at his feet; L IH [= Year 18] in left field. RPC Vol. III 5871; RPC III Online at [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5871[/URL]; BMC 16 Alexandria 620-621 at p. 74 & PL. XIII; Köln 1095; Dattari (Savio) 1480; Emmett 892.18; Milne 1394; K&G 32.571 [Kampmann, Ursula & Granschow, Thomas, [I]Die Münzen der römischen Münzstätte Alexandria[/I] (2008)]. 25 mm., 12.42 g., 12 h. [ATTACH=full]1222597[/ATTACH] Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 19 (134/135 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate bust left, slight drapery; ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ Τ[ΡΑΙΑΝ] - ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ (clockwise from upper right) [[I]bracketed portion off flan[/I]] / Rev. Slightly draped bust of Nilus right, crowned with taenia and lotus-buds, cornucopia behind right shoulder; L ЄN NЄAKΔ [= Year 19 spelled out] (clockwise from lower left). RPC Vol. III 5941; RPC III Online at [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5941[/URL]; Köln 1147; Dattari (Savio) 7450-1; K&G 32.619; Milne 1449; Emmett 875.19. 24.5 mm., 13.10 g., 12 h. [ATTACH=full]1222598[/ATTACH] Hadrian, Billon Tetradrachm, Year 22 (137/138 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate bust right, ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙϹ ΤΡΑΙΑ ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ / Rev. Nilus seated left on rocks, holding reed in right hand and cornucopiae in left; crocodile below; L KB (Year 22) in left field. RPC Vol. III 6254; RPC III Online at [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6254;[/URL] Emmett 879.22; Milne 1569; Köln.1241. 24 mm., 12.9 g. [ATTACH=full]1222604[/ATTACH] Hadrian AR Denarius, 136 AD, Travel Series, Rome Mint. Obv: HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P, bare head right / Rev: AEGYPTOS, Egypt reclining left, holding sistrum in right hand and resting left arm on basket; to left, ibis standing right. RIC II-3 1482 (2019 ed.), old RIC II 297d (1926 ed.), RSC II 99, Sear RCV II 3456, BMCRE 801-3. 18 mm., 3.11 g., 7 h. [ATTACH=full]1222600[/ATTACH] Please post your own Hadrian Egyptian coins.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
A New Hadrian Egyptian coin -- my 5th, plus one from Rome
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...