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<p>[QUOTE="Pellinore, post: 3791293, member: 74834"]Thanks for your extensive contribution, [USER=87271]@AnYangMan[/USER] . Yes, we talked, not only about Chinese coins, I think the internet-based recognition research (don't know the name of this) promises to be rewarding.</p><p>I was not the only one touched by the Chinese fire, however, for my neighbor (a collector of medieval Arabic coinage - like me) also bought some of these - for him it was as new as for me. He likes deciphering scripts, whereas I'm taken by attractive calligraphy. A different approach of the same object.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chinese coinage is not totally alien to my main area of collecting, 'Central Asia from the Greeks to Abu Sa'id'. I'm interested in the Chinese Far West, the border with the Sogdian lands. That was also the reason for me to buy that most attractive Yarkand coin (thanks [USER=82322]@Ed Snible[/USER] !).</p><p>Terribly late for me, but so calligraphically interesting. And as thick and tear-shaped as history itself...</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1012890[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1012891[/ATTACH] Very thick coin, 5 mm!</p><p><br /></p><p>China. Xinjiang, Yarkand (Zhungaria, just south of Altai), AE pul issued by the Zhungar Khan Cewan Rabdan (= Tsewang Arabtab) 1700-1727. Obv.: Zarb Yarkand. Rev.: Cewan. 16 mm, 8.57 gr. In 1700 the Zhungar khan Cewan Rabdan revolted against the Qing government and conquered the Yarkand Khanate. He ordered the subjugated people to cast puls with his name, for the payment of tribute. Zeno 228613 = 194994a. Hartill p. 310.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Da Yuan coin likewise is from the border between China and Central Asia. Several influences come together into this coin from a Chinese emperor who also was the seventh Great Khan of the Mongols. It's the largest coin of them all:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1012800[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>China, Yuan, Zhi-da, AD 1308-1311. Also Külüg Khan, seventh Great Khan of the Mongol Empire. Da-yuan tong-bao, phags-pa 10 wen. 37.5 mm, 15.08 gr. Zeno 228596 = 221657. Hartill 19.46.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BCPhags-pa_script" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BCPhags-pa_script" rel="nofollow">'Phags-pa'</a> is an artificial Tibetan-Mongolian script devised by Phagpa, a Tibetan monk, who was also an important servant of the Great Khan Hulagu, founder of the Yuan dynasty. It was used between about 1270 and 1360. A beautiful script with square forms, written from top down!</p><p><br /></p><p>I have several coins that are somehow 'in-between' China and Central Asia, for instance this broad fals of the city of Kashgar (the gate to the Karakorum road from China to what is now Pakistan) in a squarish Arabic script.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1012862[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>AE broad fals, Kashgar. Mas’ud (Masud, 1240-1269) as governor of Karakorum under Qaidu. 30 mm, 5.22 gr. Nyamaa 32.</p><p><br /></p><p>And then there's the other cash type, with Sogdian lettering instead of Chinese. I have a few of these, this one is from the great city of Samarkand, dating from about 650-700 AD. It was issued by a ruler with the beautiful name of Urk Wartamuk.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1012883[/ATTACH]</p><p> AE Samarkand Soghd cash, Urk Wartamuk. Two tamghas on the reverse. 27 mm, 3.28 gr. Smirnova 657.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pellinore, post: 3791293, member: 74834"]Thanks for your extensive contribution, [USER=87271]@AnYangMan[/USER] . Yes, we talked, not only about Chinese coins, I think the internet-based recognition research (don't know the name of this) promises to be rewarding. I was not the only one touched by the Chinese fire, however, for my neighbor (a collector of medieval Arabic coinage - like me) also bought some of these - for him it was as new as for me. He likes deciphering scripts, whereas I'm taken by attractive calligraphy. A different approach of the same object. Chinese coinage is not totally alien to my main area of collecting, 'Central Asia from the Greeks to Abu Sa'id'. I'm interested in the Chinese Far West, the border with the Sogdian lands. That was also the reason for me to buy that most attractive Yarkand coin (thanks [USER=82322]@Ed Snible[/USER] !). Terribly late for me, but so calligraphically interesting. And as thick and tear-shaped as history itself... [ATTACH=full]1012890[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1012891[/ATTACH] Very thick coin, 5 mm! China. Xinjiang, Yarkand (Zhungaria, just south of Altai), AE pul issued by the Zhungar Khan Cewan Rabdan (= Tsewang Arabtab) 1700-1727. Obv.: Zarb Yarkand. Rev.: Cewan. 16 mm, 8.57 gr. In 1700 the Zhungar khan Cewan Rabdan revolted against the Qing government and conquered the Yarkand Khanate. He ordered the subjugated people to cast puls with his name, for the payment of tribute. Zeno 228613 = 194994a. Hartill p. 310. The Da Yuan coin likewise is from the border between China and Central Asia. Several influences come together into this coin from a Chinese emperor who also was the seventh Great Khan of the Mongols. It's the largest coin of them all: [ATTACH=full]1012800[/ATTACH] China, Yuan, Zhi-da, AD 1308-1311. Also Külüg Khan, seventh Great Khan of the Mongol Empire. Da-yuan tong-bao, phags-pa 10 wen. 37.5 mm, 15.08 gr. Zeno 228596 = 221657. Hartill 19.46. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BCPhags-pa_script']'Phags-pa'[/URL] is an artificial Tibetan-Mongolian script devised by Phagpa, a Tibetan monk, who was also an important servant of the Great Khan Hulagu, founder of the Yuan dynasty. It was used between about 1270 and 1360. A beautiful script with square forms, written from top down! I have several coins that are somehow 'in-between' China and Central Asia, for instance this broad fals of the city of Kashgar (the gate to the Karakorum road from China to what is now Pakistan) in a squarish Arabic script. [ATTACH=full]1012862[/ATTACH] AE broad fals, Kashgar. Mas’ud (Masud, 1240-1269) as governor of Karakorum under Qaidu. 30 mm, 5.22 gr. Nyamaa 32. And then there's the other cash type, with Sogdian lettering instead of Chinese. I have a few of these, this one is from the great city of Samarkand, dating from about 650-700 AD. It was issued by a ruler with the beautiful name of Urk Wartamuk. [ATTACH=full]1012883[/ATTACH] AE Samarkand Soghd cash, Urk Wartamuk. Two tamghas on the reverse. 27 mm, 3.28 gr. Smirnova 657.[/QUOTE]
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