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Message:: [QUOTE="LostDutchman, post: 1312792, member: 16994"]Ok this coin is PMD and here is why. The date on the obverse looks distorted because it was used to make a "counter smash" as you call it. The design was transferred to another coin.. or just another soft piece of metal. This transfer was then used to make yet another transfer(s) onto the reverse of the coin. If you examine the areas around the "dates" you will see the distortion in the normal reverse design. This would indicate that the reverse designs were in fact there prior to the dates. Note the "E" in one. See there it meets the tail of the 9? See how around that meeting that the "E" is distorted or seemingly pushed down... because in fact it was by whatever was pressing on it. Also see the distortion to the top left of the building... same process... same results.[/QUOTE]