A 'More Silver Than Bronze" Gallienus

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  1. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Continuing my quest for 'more silver than bronze' antoninianus's of the Valerian dynasty, my latest Gallienus coin :)

    POST YER COINS N COMMENTS PEEPS!:) IMG_0513.JPG IMG_0514.JPG Gallienus billon antoninianus, minted 258-9AD Milan mint. Emperors bust right obverse, Diana reverse,23mm, 2.89gms
     
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  3. wittwolf

    wittwolf Well-Known Member

    I lately received a pretty silvery example too sadly possibly struck with very worn dies:
    Antoninianus - Emperor Gallienus - VIRTVS AVGG
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice silver (relatively speaking!)

    Date: 257-258 AD, AR antoninianus

    Obverse:
    GALLIENVS P F AVG, Radiate cuirassed bust left, holding spear over right shoulder, and shield at left shoulder (Gorgoneion on shield?)

    Reverse:
    GERMANICVS MAX V, Trophy of armor with two bound captives seated at base

    Size:
    23.31 mm

    Weight:
    2.99 grams

    Attribution:
    RIC Vii 18, rare 3

    ex-Marc Breitsprecher

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  5. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I think one of my newest coins fits the "request" :)
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    22 mm, 1,99 g
    RIC V Gallienus (joint reign) 131
    Cohen 125
    Date: AD 253
    Obverse Legend: IMP C P LIC GALLIENVS AVG
    Type: Bust of Gallienus, radiate, draped, right
    Reverse Legend: CONCORDIA AVGG
    Type: Two right hands clasped together

    In the last auction I was simply knocked out on all the coins I wanted. I had very low hope on this one but I won it without paying much. Probably other people didn't like the corrosion. I am not bothered and I love this reverse type.
     
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  6. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    My best Silver Tet of Trajan 6A17FFD7-95FC-41E6-AF30-19C8E8A0A61C.jpeg
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i like that coin too....really impressed with that handshake(clasped) reverse :)
     
  8. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Good catch

    My "more silver than bronze" Gallienus

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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

  10. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    I just posted this, but couldn't stop myself in time. Thanks, @ominus1, for the pretext, along with an impressive example.
    Gallienus, ant., Germania.jpg
    GALLIENVS P. F. AVG /Trophy and captives, GERMANICVS MAX V
    Sear (2nd ed., 1974) 2861 (sorry, all that's to hand).
    I like how the relief, along with the composition, evoke the issues of Valerian, suggesting an early point in the reign. Since the numeral V on the reverse didn't correspond to anything in Sear, I Wiki'e Gallienus, and found that one of his early successes was against an invasion of Italy by the Allemani (which I understand to have been a Latin term corresponding more or less to 'all the rest of those Germanic tribes'), dated to c. 258-60. After a defense of Rome itself by an impromptu Senatorially-sponsored force, Gallienus and his army returned from repelling yet another invasion, either in Gaul or the Balkans (take your pick), and decisively defeated them at Mediolanum (/Milan) --which, as @ominus1 demonstrates, he then made a major mint town.
    ...While not terrifically early in the reign, this interval is still safely prior to Gallienus' lamented 'coin reform' /wholesale debasement. If anyone knew the significance of that "V" on the reverse, that would be pretty great. Seems less than easily plausible that it would be commemorating the fifth anniversary of the victory ...but what do I know? I mostly jumped ship from Roman to medieval when I was still a kid.
     
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  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    This is the densest and highest silver purity Gallienus I have.
    Gallienus AR Ant RIC 178 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG

    This one is the shiniest one though
    Gallienus AR Ant RIC Rome 174j.JPG
     
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  12. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Mine's more of a silvered bronze!
    Gallienus.jpg
     
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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Solid one, @Jayag. When I found one that was even in the ballpark, as a kid (when I was Really into this stuff), it made my whole week.
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    silver mine...

    GALLIENUS

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    RI Gallienus Silvered Æ Ant CE 263-264 AVG rad cuiras R Hercules R lion skin club star RIC 673
     
  15. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Nice pickup @ominus1. Here’s my “more-silver-than-bronze” Gallienus (I always like the ragged flan shape on this one).

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    Gallienus (joint reign), Antoninianus, Rome mint, 255-256 AD., RIC V 159
     
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  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..is that a request?!?...:D(JK) IMG_0521.JPG IMG_0522.JPG Valerian 'silvered' AE antoninianus, emperors bust right obverse, emperor receiving wreath of Orient reverse, 19mm 2.32gms
     
  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Well done awesome One!
    Here's dad and bro:
    Screenshot_20200918-203922_PicCollage-removebg-preview.png Screenshot_20200918-204046_PicCollage-removebg-preview.png
     
  18. Chris Garland

    Chris Garland New Member

    What's the silver purity on those two? I own one of them and have been trying to figure out how pure it is?
     
  19. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    almost impossible without invasive means.
    You can estimate by measuring density but short of cutting it apart it’s not easy. XRF is only surface analysis so that will tell you if it’s pure on the surface but not in the core.
     
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  20. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    A couple of my “looks like more silver than bronze” Gallienus coins
    GallienusCologneRICV-1-54.JPG GallienusRIC132.jpg GallienusRomeV-1-143.jpg
     
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