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<p>[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 4982667, member: 95174"][USER=111037]@Only a Poor Old Man[/USER] , <u>Congratulations of your new Andy. I will point out to you that example is the heaviest known example and it is very attractive. </u></p><p><br /></p><p>This coin I pointed out in my post earlier this year, is found in three different die sizes, 18mm, 15mm 12mm , the catalogs only not 2 different sizes the 18mm and the 12mm. ( <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/disecting-a-denomiation-the-12th-century-byzantine-tetarteron.360937/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/disecting-a-denomiation-the-12th-century-byzantine-tetarteron.360937/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/disecting-a-denomiation-the-12th-century-byzantine-tetarteron.360937/</a> ) </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my favorite and one of the first coins in tetartera I collected. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1197077[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>ANDRONICUS AE TETARTERON S-1987 DOC 6 CLBC 5.4.2</b></p><p><br /></p><p>OBV Bust of Virgin nimbate orans, wearing tunic and maphorion; beardless, nimbate head of Christ on breast.</p><p>REV Bust of emperor wearing stemma, skaramangion or divitision, and sagion; holds in r. hand labarum headed scepter, and in left globus cruciger.</p><p><br /></p><p>Size 21.96 mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight 5.1gm</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a Thessalonica minted coin, it contains no silver. It is believed to be valued at 1/864 Hyperpyron and the Metropolitan (Constantinople) issues at 1/288 Hyperpyron. This coins are much more common than Metropolitan coins and very abundant in today’s marketplace.</p><p><br /></p><p>DOC lists 6 examples with weights ranging from 2.54 gm to 4.91 gm with sizes from 20mm to 23mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Its little brother , this is the 12mm version but it was struck on a oversized flan making it much heavier than it should be. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1197080[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>ANDRONICUS HALF TETARTERON S-1989 DOC 8 CLBC 5.4.3</b></p><p>OBV Bust of Virgin nimbate, orans, wearing tunic and maphorion; beardless. Nimbate head of Christ on breast.</p><p><br /></p><p>REV Bust of emperor wearing stemma, skaramangion or divitision and sagion; holds in r hand labrum headed scepter, and in l. globus cruciger.</p><p><br /></p><p>Size 22 mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight 3.4 gm</p><p><br /></p><p>Size is off on this example but the die size is 12mm making it a half tetartera, it is aEF example, again large flan making it an excellent example.</p><p><br /></p><p>DOC lists 3 examples with weights ranging from 1.38 gm to 2.46 gm with sizes from 15mm to 18mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>One part of your article I must question, the tetartera was named because of its original shape matched the gold coin and then the prereform tetarteron that was a silver coin. The value of the coin is thought to be 1/3rd a follis. The Metropolitan issues contained silver , they were thought to be the replacement for the follis. The Thessalonica and over mint issue contained no silver , 3 of those equaled a Metropolitan tetarteron and that was thought to be equal to a follis. The follis of the post reform was around 6gm. My main source of information is Michael Hendys work in Dumbarton Oakes Catalog IV. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Congratulations again on your outstanding example and wonderful write up. </b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 4982667, member: 95174"][USER=111037]@Only a Poor Old Man[/USER] , [U]Congratulations of your new Andy. I will point out to you that example is the heaviest known example and it is very attractive. [/U] This coin I pointed out in my post earlier this year, is found in three different die sizes, 18mm, 15mm 12mm , the catalogs only not 2 different sizes the 18mm and the 12mm. ( [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/disecting-a-denomiation-the-12th-century-byzantine-tetarteron.360937/[/URL] ) Here is my favorite and one of the first coins in tetartera I collected. [ATTACH=full]1197077[/ATTACH] [B]ANDRONICUS AE TETARTERON S-1987 DOC 6 CLBC 5.4.2[/B] OBV Bust of Virgin nimbate orans, wearing tunic and maphorion; beardless, nimbate head of Christ on breast. REV Bust of emperor wearing stemma, skaramangion or divitision, and sagion; holds in r. hand labarum headed scepter, and in left globus cruciger. Size 21.96 mm Weight 5.1gm This is a Thessalonica minted coin, it contains no silver. It is believed to be valued at 1/864 Hyperpyron and the Metropolitan (Constantinople) issues at 1/288 Hyperpyron. This coins are much more common than Metropolitan coins and very abundant in today’s marketplace. DOC lists 6 examples with weights ranging from 2.54 gm to 4.91 gm with sizes from 20mm to 23mm Its little brother , this is the 12mm version but it was struck on a oversized flan making it much heavier than it should be. [ATTACH=full]1197080[/ATTACH] [B]ANDRONICUS HALF TETARTERON S-1989 DOC 8 CLBC 5.4.3[/B] OBV Bust of Virgin nimbate, orans, wearing tunic and maphorion; beardless. Nimbate head of Christ on breast. REV Bust of emperor wearing stemma, skaramangion or divitision and sagion; holds in r hand labrum headed scepter, and in l. globus cruciger. Size 22 mm Weight 3.4 gm Size is off on this example but the die size is 12mm making it a half tetartera, it is aEF example, again large flan making it an excellent example. DOC lists 3 examples with weights ranging from 1.38 gm to 2.46 gm with sizes from 15mm to 18mm. One part of your article I must question, the tetartera was named because of its original shape matched the gold coin and then the prereform tetarteron that was a silver coin. The value of the coin is thought to be 1/3rd a follis. The Metropolitan issues contained silver , they were thought to be the replacement for the follis. The Thessalonica and over mint issue contained no silver , 3 of those equaled a Metropolitan tetarteron and that was thought to be equal to a follis. The follis of the post reform was around 6gm. My main source of information is Michael Hendys work in Dumbarton Oakes Catalog IV. [B]Congratulations again on your outstanding example and wonderful write up. [/B][/QUOTE]
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