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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4846706, member: 110504"]The Wiki article about Septimius (remarkably well-documented, for a change) notes the following:</p><p>"Septimius Severus came from a wealthy and distinguished family of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_(Roman)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_(Roman)" rel="nofollow">equestrian</a> rank. He had <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia_(Roman_Empire)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia_(Roman_Empire)" rel="nofollow">Italian</a> Roman ancestry on his mother's side, and was descended from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics" rel="nofollow">Punic</a> forebears on his father's side. [...] He spoke the local <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punic_language" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punic_language" rel="nofollow">Punic language</a> fluently, but he was also educated in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin" rel="nofollow">Latin</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" rel="nofollow">Greek</a>, which he spoke with a slight accent." <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus#Family_and_education" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus#Family_and_education" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus#Family_and_education</a></p><p>Along similar lines, regarding St. Augustine, from the same neck of the woods, a similarly competent Wiki article notes the following.</p><p>"Scholars generally agree Augustine and his family were <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers" rel="nofollow">Berbers</a>, an ethnic group indigenous to North Africa, but were heavily Romanized, speaking only Latin at home as a matter of pride and dignity." <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Childhood_and_education" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Childhood_and_education" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Childhood_and_education</a></p><p>Regarding the racial composition of northern Africa during Antiquity, one must bear in mind that, especially during an historical interval which was effectively innocent of racism in any recognizably modern, ideological form, there was considerable fluidity, where the operant demographics were concerned. Egypt saw literal millennia of successive occupation and settlement by waves of Asiatic and European invaders, bookended by the Persians and the Ottomans. What would you <i>suppose</i> happened ...with readily available precedent from the US?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4846706, member: 110504"]The Wiki article about Septimius (remarkably well-documented, for a change) notes the following: "Septimius Severus came from a wealthy and distinguished family of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_(Roman)']equestrian[/URL] rank. He had [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia_(Roman_Empire)']Italian[/URL] Roman ancestry on his mother's side, and was descended from [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics']Punic[/URL] forebears on his father's side. [...] He spoke the local [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punic_language']Punic language[/URL] fluently, but he was also educated in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin']Latin[/URL] and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language']Greek[/URL], which he spoke with a slight accent." [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus#Family_and_education[/URL] Along similar lines, regarding St. Augustine, from the same neck of the woods, a similarly competent Wiki article notes the following. "Scholars generally agree Augustine and his family were [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers']Berbers[/URL], an ethnic group indigenous to North Africa, but were heavily Romanized, speaking only Latin at home as a matter of pride and dignity." [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Childhood_and_education[/URL] Regarding the racial composition of northern Africa during Antiquity, one must bear in mind that, especially during an historical interval which was effectively innocent of racism in any recognizably modern, ideological form, there was considerable fluidity, where the operant demographics were concerned. Egypt saw literal millennia of successive occupation and settlement by waves of Asiatic and European invaders, bookended by the Persians and the Ottomans. What would you [I]suppose[/I] happened ...with readily available precedent from the US?[/QUOTE]
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