A little weary about a purchase

You learn something new every day.
Merriam Webster calls leary a variant of leery.
Thanks for making me look it up.

 

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I found another variant of leary:

 

Mind-Reading 101?

I'm sorry, I may have missed something, as I was absent from the "subject" mind-reading curriculum. What is improper with weary?: "having one's patience, tolerance, or pleasure exhausted, having one's interest"?

A fellow collector presents his private concerns in a public forum asking for our assistance, after "having his patience, tolerance, and purchase pleasure exhausted, piquing his interest (i.e. concerns)". I tried to read his mind in determining if his word choice was appropriate for his explanation. Possibly, IMHO?

Are there others who've had communications with the cited seller, and can possibly supply any constructive feedback to assist a concerned "brother". Correspondence I personally received from the referenced seller indicated that there are possibly others viewing this post that may have interacted with the him, and could be able to minimally P.M. the O.P.? :thumb:

 

I bought one of the gold coins as well, on the 16th. I exchanged a few PM's with him, and we did the transaction through Google checkout, using my credit card that day. Haven't heard anything since, but waiting a couple more days for benefit of doubt to show up. If not, I'll just initiate a charge-back on the card, and wait for the process to complete if that's the case.

With the credit cards, over the internet, if you don't get what you ordered or aren't satisfied, you can initiate the chargeback and if you have enough background, it's usually OK. It's not exactly quick and painless, but it works. I would never send a money order anymore these days, and if it's not in person, no way would direct cash ever be involved.

I'll let you know if my coin arrives.

-Gary

 

well lets see how he sold it. hopefully everyone who bought will weigh in:
I bought the 1995 rool of ASE
A 2006 roll of ASE
and the 1860 Seated half

what did everyone else buy?

 

I dont know that I will help much, but I do know that he is supposedly a dealer. Also he bought some of my coins and I am just waiting on the check... he might be buying a couple 1921 merc's from me but now that will depend if this check gets here or not.

 

Your point?

 

Dangers Of Using Google "check-out", etc.

I may be incorrect, but I believe that debit card use for payment and discretionary credit card transactions, will not allow a "charge-back" funds recovery over the internet.

I believe that some members on this site could probably provide circumstantial elaboration based on personal experiences.

 

You didn't send the coins already did you? I'd also wait a few days after the check clears, just in case.

 

Since my personal experiences with the forementioned individual are nonexisitent, circumstantial elaboration on my part would be immaterial. However, the impatient nature of my personality allows little, if any, tolerance for said seller to present himself and allow a proper evaluation on my part.

 

Way tooo many red flags here folks. I hope it works out for all of you.

As a point of reference, never, ever, commit big funds for coin purchases to someone on a coin chat board. There are lots of sharks out there just patiently waiting for the big score.

ALWAYS get references and NEVER, EVER jump on what looks like a really good deal on coins BELOW wholesale!

For $1,000, I'd really want to know who I'm dealing with and what my options might be.

 

Not defending nor condemning anyone, but believe it or not, many members take a weekend off and do other enjoyable things in life. If a person sold all they had advertised, maybe they felt all was well, rather than some checking the supply of tar and making the chickens nervous. If he is good, things will eventually work out. If not, then it will still be the same a few days from now. Do other things or post on other threads, it is out of yours and my hands. I do think it is a little early to have such panic.

 

This should be a simple matter of lodging a disputed charge. This will be the first time I've done it with a coin purchase, but the couple times I've done it in the past, if the merchandise doesn't arrive you lodge the dispute and depending on the evidence, you'll get the money back (i.e. the charge reversed). It may take a while to work through, but regardless of debit, credit, etc, purchases I've never had an instance where I've been told "tough luck".

The one local dealer I know gets notices of disputed charges every so often, which is why he videos and records every single sale he boxes up and ships out. Lots of interesting stories there for another day.

 

Mine was the 1911 Gaudens (no mint mark).

 

With all due respect, this guy makes a lot of business claims (especially on his webstore thing), so taking a weekend off and avoiding concerned customers is unacceptable. This person did not present themselves as a collector.. had he done so this would be somewhat understandable. If he wants to play business, he also needs to accept the responsibility that comes with it.

 

With all due respect back, Below is the ad he placed in the For Sale section. Which claims on it are you referring ?

Some people do have a life and what makes one think he knows there are concerns and how do you know he is avoiding anything? A lot of suppositions on your part. I am only commenting on his ad, as he did not post a link to his "store" or "site" in this CT ad. His responsibility is to fulfill what he indicates he will do, not what we think he should do. I do not know this person, I have never looked at his store or what ever, but the only thing that should matter is what is in this ad. Did he promise 24/7? did he say any time limits in the ad for mailing?

As I said he may be a bad one, but just as likely he isn't. Jumping to unfounded conclusions at this time does no one any good. He says in his signature section he is a dealer/member of .....many initials, but again no store link.

 

No, I said that I would ship once the check cleared. I always do it that way with checks, with PayPal as soon as it hits my account they are prepped to be shipped and shipped as soon as I can get to it. So hopefully I wont get screwed

 

This is why I'm waiting a few more days to give benefit of the doubt before I make any decisions. The fact that he has been here and is supposed to be in business carried a little more weight than just any other board member.

I've been on both ends, this isn't my first purchase of things over the internet via a forum (I've been a longtime car enthusiast). I've sold stuff and had the selling process drag on due to life before I was able to ship things out, and have had the same where I was the purchaser.

Looking back, are there things that worry me about this transaction? Yes, and I should have been a little more diligent on my end to make sure the cards were stacked in my favor. But, alas, I didn't, and right now, I'm hoping in the basic decency of people that they honor their word and things end up OK. If my hope is unfounded, then well, I'll recover what I can through my bank avenues, and next time make sure I do a better job.

 

No offense to anyone, but there are plenty of dealers if you read there websites they do not take paypal or other online payment. A couple do not even take charge cards - just look at Mark Felds payment terms. Now I do not know hcsc or what he has for sale, but the return policy would bug me if it said no returns. Of course other dealers say no returns on bullion either - so nothing strange there. So I would give them a little time to respond.

 

A Succinct Post!

I believe my post was quite succinct in supporting the word used by the O.P., which seemingly befitted his explanation. Secondary word choice criticism was unnecessary, didn't respond to the needs of the O.P., and I believe your word was additionally incorrect.

Wary is an anticipatory word normally preclusive to an action, rather than responsive. Weary Is a responsive word following action. The subject action (i.e. funds submission) had already transpired. Please ask your friends to explain if my elaboration is too expansive.

Consider the dilemma of the O.P., his mental state after exhausting his forseeable avenues for redressing a perceived condition, asking for friendly assistance from like-minded(?) collectors. What would you think if someone evaded your call for help, stating that they knew your thoughts better, and said that their descriptive word of conditions was apropos, rather than yours?

I was attempting to redirect the thread to locate that/those requested by the O.P.. No offense intended, and trust no offense is taken. :thumb: