A little help here please with DD

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by FRESHY82, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. FRESHY82

    FRESHY82 Member

    Ok so can you look at these pics sorry there so horrible . But I used my microscope (a mediocre one at that) and snapped some pics sorry I couldn't just get them straight from the file location my PC is being retarded. Anyways look at them and tell me if it's a DD or just a shadow or anything . I appreciate all your input. 20171012_031920_HDR.jpg 20171012_031859_HDR.jpg 20171012_031728_HDR.jpg 20171012_031442_HDR.jpg 20171012_025241_HDR.jpg
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  3. FRESHY82

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    1995 is a Copper Plated Zinc Cent. They show what is called DDD - Die Deterioration Doubling. This occurred with much Die usage which affects the plating... this is what you have. Not a Doubled Die.
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  5. FRESHY82

    FRESHY82 Member

    So how can I know the difference.
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  6. paddyman98

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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    A lot of research and patience

    I myself don't look for or specialise in Doubled Dies. Most are worthless and a waste of time to look for. Also.. Many are just Machine Doubling and DDD as I explained to you. IMHO
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  8. Chewmassa

    Chewmassa Now where could my pipe be?

    I'm not an expert or anything, but how I usually decide the difference for myself is a combination of a few factors. First of all on a true doubled die the doubled elements will be the same "height" as the original elements, whereas on DDD the doubled elements will be very "short" as well as flat. Another way to decide if you have a genuine doubled die is to compare yours to any listed on varietyvista. If you can't find a match, chances are extremely high it's not a doubled die. As paddyman said experience helps too. After you find a real doubled die you'll have a lot better idea of what you're looking for. The fact of the matter is that while pictures are helpful they're not nearly as good as holding an actual coin in your hand. Maybe try going to a coinshop and looking at some doubled dies to "get a feel for them". Finally I partially agree with paddy on most doubled dies not being worth looking for. I personally do search for them but only the ones listed here:
    Hope my response wasn't too long and that it helped some.
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball Cannot Re-Member

    "Doubled Ditto!"

  10. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    .....also once known as "Machine Doubling".
  11. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    Is machine doubling and what I have heard referred to as ejection doubling the same thing?
  12. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Guys, the OP's coin is NOT Machine doubled (also ejection doubled or strike doubled), and is NOT Die deterioration doubled.

    I'll suggest you take another look at the images on the error site. They look nothing like this coin.

    As Paddy said, the OP's coin is copper plated zinc. When many of these coins are struck, the plating is ripped away from the zinc surface as the planchet metal fills the die. That leaves a silver colored (until it tones) "lip" next to the relief. There is NO DOUBLING present, only the appearance of doubling. ;)

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