Featured A Gothic Fourée Aureus of Diocletian

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  1. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Thank you for sharing this!
     
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  3. Julius Germanicus

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    I thought so as well because of the identical placing of the hole on my OP coin and the very similar piece I posted before. These two specimens here however have the hole at different places, so the bronze flans must have been holed after striking, but before being gold-plated:

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    The two new specimens show nice detail on the emperor´s dress. Doesn´t it look like he is not draped, but only cuirassed? If so, there would be no corresponding original type from the early Tetrarchy.

    Im am beginning to wonder if it is really Diocletian´s portrait that has been copied from a Roman original for this obverse die, because his colleague Maximian also issued an Aureus with a left facing bust. This specimen here even has traces from a removed mounting, so it likely has been in barbarian hands (and could therefore have been used as an inspiration by gothic celators:

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    They very much resemble each other on the coinage (what individual features do you see?), but I would say the little differences (look at the slightly thinner face and the angry mouth!) still speak for Diocletian as the man on the OP coin:

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    What do you think?
     
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  4. genXmetalfan

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    Beautiful!! I would want to feel them all! Wow- thank you for letting us see them-
     
  5. Julius Germanicus

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    Update:
    A double die matching specimen (the one pictured earlier in this thread that is neither plated nor holed nor looped) to my OP coin is now offered as lot 819 in Leu Auction 4 with the description „This probably is a free-hand imitation rather than a copy of an actual prototype, as the obverse is decidedly post-reform in style, whereas the reverse was only struck pre-reform for either Diocletian or Maximian“.
    The catalogue´s introduction to the „Aurum Barbarorum Collection“ (which includes 50 such imitations) states:
    „As the supply of Roman gold to the Barbaricum diminished when the empire was stabilized under Claudius II and Aurelian, Gothic goldsmiths began to develop local
    imitations: this marks the Dawn of Germanic Coinage. (...) Modern archeology has shown that aurei north of the Danube in the late 3rd and early 4th centuries were mostly worn by chieftains and leaders of warrior groups in the form of pendants as badges of honor. There is indication, therefore, that the earliest independent Germanic coinage did not come about through the monetarization of the broader society at the time but was initiated by the demand for the popular Roman or
    Romanized status and honor symbols by local elites. Standardization of the weights was superfluous as the coins were usually perforated in order to be worn around the neck – a practice that was later replaced by the application of suspension loops“.

    I had not realized that these holed gothic imitations are the earliest coins of Germanic production :)
     
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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Nice score!
     
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