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<p>[QUOTE="Gallienus, post: 4004892, member: 42034"]While not being able to afford anything like Mr. Murphy's incredible triples, I've always had an interest in the English Civil War. Also I like large circulating coins. Thus about 4 years ago when I saw an attractive XX [20] shillings [or pound] with a clear (non-doubled) lettering at auction I bought it.</p><p><br /></p><p>These cost about 1/10th of what the Triple Units cost and are relatively uncommon. They were made similar years: mostly in 1642 with a few in '43 and I think there's one specimen dated 1644. At the Stack's sale (Aug, 2016) this one cost me exactly 5K before commission: so a lot more affordable than the triples.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://coinsandhistory.com/pix_shared/pix_cointalk/England_Chas-I_Pnd_1642_Stks_both_low_600px.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>LOT DESCRIPTION</p><p><b>GREAT BRITAIN. Pound, 1642. Oxford Mint. Charles I (1625-49). PCGS Genuine--Cleaning, VF Details Secure Holder.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>While neither Heritage nor Stacks nor NGC list any weights, the Spinks (London) website has one silver pound listed: same year & mint at 118.02 grams. A number of other silver crowns (1/4 of a pound) of that era weigh from 29.22 to 30.02 grams so the target weight should be around 120 grams. I don't have a diameter but will measure it once I visit the SD box. The "cleaning" described on the slab didn't leave hairlines to my recollection but the toning is a bit lighter than otherwise would be expected.</p><p><br /></p><p>At one point I thought that Charles I minted these as he was having difficulty procuring gold for coinage but the gold triples refute this. My understanding is that these silver pounds were made as presentation coins for Royalist calvery commanders. Also 1642 is fairly early in the war and fortune at this time was favoring the Royalists.</p><p><br /></p><p>This particular piece is described as "ex-Rye collection" on the slab but I've been unable to identify what the "Rye collection" is. British isn't a collecting specialty for me, but I sometime exhibit aberrant behavior for historically interesting pieces.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Gallienus, post: 4004892, member: 42034"]While not being able to afford anything like Mr. Murphy's incredible triples, I've always had an interest in the English Civil War. Also I like large circulating coins. Thus about 4 years ago when I saw an attractive XX [20] shillings [or pound] with a clear (non-doubled) lettering at auction I bought it. These cost about 1/10th of what the Triple Units cost and are relatively uncommon. They were made similar years: mostly in 1642 with a few in '43 and I think there's one specimen dated 1644. At the Stack's sale (Aug, 2016) this one cost me exactly 5K before commission: so a lot more affordable than the triples. [IMG]https://coinsandhistory.com/pix_shared/pix_cointalk/England_Chas-I_Pnd_1642_Stks_both_low_600px.jpg[/IMG] LOT DESCRIPTION [B]GREAT BRITAIN. Pound, 1642. Oxford Mint. Charles I (1625-49). PCGS Genuine--Cleaning, VF Details Secure Holder.[/B] While neither Heritage nor Stacks nor NGC list any weights, the Spinks (London) website has one silver pound listed: same year & mint at 118.02 grams. A number of other silver crowns (1/4 of a pound) of that era weigh from 29.22 to 30.02 grams so the target weight should be around 120 grams. I don't have a diameter but will measure it once I visit the SD box. The "cleaning" described on the slab didn't leave hairlines to my recollection but the toning is a bit lighter than otherwise would be expected. At one point I thought that Charles I minted these as he was having difficulty procuring gold for coinage but the gold triples refute this. My understanding is that these silver pounds were made as presentation coins for Royalist calvery commanders. Also 1642 is fairly early in the war and fortune at this time was favoring the Royalists. This particular piece is described as "ex-Rye collection" on the slab but I've been unable to identify what the "Rye collection" is. British isn't a collecting specialty for me, but I sometime exhibit aberrant behavior for historically interesting pieces.[/QUOTE]
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