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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 3642841, member: 56653"]Hi,</p><p><br /></p><p>I think that your gros tournois is similar to Duplessy 214, Ciani 206, Lafaurie 218. Gros a l'0 long instead of O rond (Duplessy 213). These later types (cca. 1290-1295 cf. Duplessy, but possibly later to around 1305) are often of varying weights, on the lower side. Yours is a full gram and some lighter than the poids theorique acc. to Duplessy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Considering that 1 gros tournois at the regular 958/1000 standard was valued starting with the mid 1290s at 13.125 deniers tournois rather than the 12 deniers standard of 1266, this might point out to the financial difficulties that would plague the French Kingdom around and during the Flemish Wars and/or to the debasement of the double tournois after 1300 (there are no deniers assigned to around 1300 to 1307, just the doubles of 1295-1303 and 1303-1305).</p><p><br /></p><p>As Duplessy 213c, the separatifs variations, dates plausibly to 1305 (a full inflation period, with the double tournois falling to as low as 159/1000 silver content) this issue might also follow the same overall trend and be paired with the double tournois #229a, of 1303-1305.</p><p><br /></p><p>This later date even fits with the silver quantity calculations and with a lower weight gros, taking into account a valuation in 1305 of 13.125 double tournois (so 26.25 deniers tournois) for a gros:</p><p><br /></p><p>13.125 x 0.2289 ~~ 3.14 x 0.958</p><p><br /></p><p>Which points to at least an error in Duplessy for the poids theorique of #214 or to an otherwise unlisted gros issue of 1303-1305 (on the later side of this?) of cca. 3.12-3.14g gros at the regular 0.958/1000 title. And a two times higher valuation of the gros vs the denier in 1305.</p><p><br /></p><p>It would be very nice if you could certify the silver title, but nonetheless a very interesting find.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 3642841, member: 56653"]Hi, I think that your gros tournois is similar to Duplessy 214, Ciani 206, Lafaurie 218. Gros a l'0 long instead of O rond (Duplessy 213). These later types (cca. 1290-1295 cf. Duplessy, but possibly later to around 1305) are often of varying weights, on the lower side. Yours is a full gram and some lighter than the poids theorique acc. to Duplessy. Considering that 1 gros tournois at the regular 958/1000 standard was valued starting with the mid 1290s at 13.125 deniers tournois rather than the 12 deniers standard of 1266, this might point out to the financial difficulties that would plague the French Kingdom around and during the Flemish Wars and/or to the debasement of the double tournois after 1300 (there are no deniers assigned to around 1300 to 1307, just the doubles of 1295-1303 and 1303-1305). As Duplessy 213c, the separatifs variations, dates plausibly to 1305 (a full inflation period, with the double tournois falling to as low as 159/1000 silver content) this issue might also follow the same overall trend and be paired with the double tournois #229a, of 1303-1305. This later date even fits with the silver quantity calculations and with a lower weight gros, taking into account a valuation in 1305 of 13.125 double tournois (so 26.25 deniers tournois) for a gros: 13.125 x 0.2289 ~~ 3.14 x 0.958 Which points to at least an error in Duplessy for the poids theorique of #214 or to an otherwise unlisted gros issue of 1303-1305 (on the later side of this?) of cca. 3.12-3.14g gros at the regular 0.958/1000 title. And a two times higher valuation of the gros vs the denier in 1305. It would be very nice if you could certify the silver title, but nonetheless a very interesting find.[/QUOTE]
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